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My 7 Year Old Daughter Punished For Wearing Pretty Dress On Picture Day!
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hexeliebe
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samsr
Ohhhh you hurt my feelings. I'm soooo ashamed. This worthless druggie begs your forgiveness....
NOT.
Sorry, but you're still an idiot. This is your fight, not your child's. Which tells me you haven't learned a thing. Next time you come to a forum like this asking for LEGAL advice, remember you get what you pay for. And in your case, you got exactly what was needed, a citation of the LAW.
So what if the principle apologized? Did that change the law? No. Did the school board change their policy? No. Did you learn anything about letting your child flaunt the established rules and suffering the consequences for their actions? No.
In other words, you have not learned a thing except that now you think it's just dandy to involve your child in your petty battles.
I don't agree with Knotcops much but on this issue I do....your poor child should divorce you posthaste.
Ohhhh you hurt my feelings. I'm soooo ashamed. This worthless druggie begs your forgiveness....
NOT.
Sorry, but you're still an idiot. This is your fight, not your child's. Which tells me you haven't learned a thing. Next time you come to a forum like this asking for LEGAL advice, remember you get what you pay for. And in your case, you got exactly what was needed, a citation of the LAW.
So what if the principle apologized? Did that change the law? No. Did the school board change their policy? No. Did you learn anything about letting your child flaunt the established rules and suffering the consequences for their actions? No.
In other words, you have not learned a thing except that now you think it's just dandy to involve your child in your petty battles.
I don't agree with Knotcops much but on this issue I do....your poor child should divorce you posthaste.
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knotcops
Guest
hexeliebe said:
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hexeliebe
Guest
I'm soooo confused...
Must be all those drugs
Must be all those drugs
C
coosi
Guest
The greater punishment for this poor little girl is the humiliation, embarrassment and emotional trauma inflicted by the ignorant, vindictive parent. I bet the child wishes she had never seen that "pretty dress"...
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samsr
Guest
The answer to your question...
My daughter actually wanted me to move her to another school.
We've convinced her that going to another class would be enough. Listen, I don't want to get back at the school or anyone,
for that matter. What they did that day was just plain wrong.
Do you think it was justified to stick a 7 year old in an auditorium
for an entire school day, without supervision, because she
didn't have a uniform?
So far, I have confirmed that a total of 8 other students did not
wear a uniform that day, yet mine was the only one treated
in such a manner. All the others were allowed to remain in their
classrooms.
So much for uniform rule enforcement.
Sam
My daughter actually wanted me to move her to another school.
We've convinced her that going to another class would be enough. Listen, I don't want to get back at the school or anyone,
for that matter. What they did that day was just plain wrong.
Do you think it was justified to stick a 7 year old in an auditorium
for an entire school day, without supervision, because she
didn't have a uniform?
So far, I have confirmed that a total of 8 other students did not
wear a uniform that day, yet mine was the only one treated
in such a manner. All the others were allowed to remain in their
classrooms.
So much for uniform rule enforcement.
Sam
samsr
Why is it so hard for you to admit that you and your wife made a mistake in parenting and are the root cause of your daughter's ending up in the auditorium on her knees doing her work all day?
You made a mistake and your daughter paid the consequences. If you had sent her to school in uniform, this would not have happened.
As much as I disagree with your daughter's not receiving a suitable work area, I believe you must stop blaming others and accept responsibility for your own actions. How else are you going to teach your child that rules and regulations govern behavior? How is she going to respect your rules and regulations when you are teaching her that such are optional and others are to blame when she fails to follow rules and regulations.
She is 7 years old! She has no life experiences on which to judge who was right and who was wrong. She has no life experiences on which to make a learned decision that she wants to change schools. She wants it because you told her she wants, even it was in overheard conversations.
You and your wife have a duty to teach her that school rules must be followed so that when she is in her rebellious teens and a driver, she will obey the rules and regulations of driving. If you do not teach her to follow rules and regulations whether or not she likes them, you may be burying her in a very pretty dress when she is 16 or 17. She'll use that lesson as she speeds through a road area with temporary, reduced speed limit and crashes into the reason the speed was reduced. For the rest of your life, I'm sure you will remember how beautiful she looked in her pretty dress in her casket and you will wish you had not taught her from the age of 7 that rules and regulations are optional and if something bad happens, it won't be her fault.
EC
Why is it so hard for you to admit that you and your wife made a mistake in parenting and are the root cause of your daughter's ending up in the auditorium on her knees doing her work all day?
You made a mistake and your daughter paid the consequences. If you had sent her to school in uniform, this would not have happened.
As much as I disagree with your daughter's not receiving a suitable work area, I believe you must stop blaming others and accept responsibility for your own actions. How else are you going to teach your child that rules and regulations govern behavior? How is she going to respect your rules and regulations when you are teaching her that such are optional and others are to blame when she fails to follow rules and regulations.
She is 7 years old! She has no life experiences on which to judge who was right and who was wrong. She has no life experiences on which to make a learned decision that she wants to change schools. She wants it because you told her she wants, even it was in overheard conversations.
You and your wife have a duty to teach her that school rules must be followed so that when she is in her rebellious teens and a driver, she will obey the rules and regulations of driving. If you do not teach her to follow rules and regulations whether or not she likes them, you may be burying her in a very pretty dress when she is 16 or 17. She'll use that lesson as she speeds through a road area with temporary, reduced speed limit and crashes into the reason the speed was reduced. For the rest of your life, I'm sure you will remember how beautiful she looked in her pretty dress in her casket and you will wish you had not taught her from the age of 7 that rules and regulations are optional and if something bad happens, it won't be her fault.
EC
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samsr
Guest
Thanks For Your Opinion
Before I address your opinion, let me tell you that your
description of my daughter, dead, was not welcome.
It's gross and totally extreme and really had no place in this
discussion. I can't believe you said such a thing and it lowers my opinion of you. You need some type of help, for that description alone. I wish you the best.
Your mixing apples and oranges here.
Here are my responses,
"Why is it so hard for you to admit that you and your wife made a mistake in parenting and are the root cause"
It's not hard to admit it. We didn't make a mistake, we fought
back against an idiotic rule. Not the uniform policy itself,
just that it shouldn't be applyed on picture, it's that simple.
If the school can have so-called "tag" days when kids dress out
and bring a dollar to school, it doesn't seem like the end of civilization as we know it to dress nicely on SCHOOL SPONSORED
picture day. THAT'S OUR OPINION & POSITION.
"As much as I disagree with your daughter's not receiving a suitable work area"
Is that all you can do is "disagree" with them sticking my daughter in a large auditorium, unsupervised the entire day??
I have a feeling that you would have MUCH MORE than disagreed
if it would have been YOUR DAUGHTER.
In fact, I'm POSITIVE of that!
What if there would have been an emergency such as a fire or bomb threat. Do you think they would have remembered about
my child??? Whose to say really??
When I said that to one of the school board members,
the lady actually blushed!
"You and your wife have a duty to teach her that school rules must be followed"
You're partially right.
We have a duty to teach her that ALL rules must be followed, not just school rules. But we must also teach that there are stupid,
idiotic rules that people make without taking all things into
consideration.
Because a certain rule is implemented, that doesn't mean it's right. When I was growing up there was a missed homework
rule. If you missed homework you had to stick your hand out
in front of the class while the teacher wacked your open palm
with a ruler. That's was the class rule so I guess in your eyes,
being that it was an accepted rule, that would be ok!??
I think not.
I see no difference here.
We need to use good judgement when following rules.
Just because it's a rule, that doesn't make it right.
There are plenty of bad rules and laws, haven't you noticed??
Sam
Before I address your opinion, let me tell you that your
description of my daughter, dead, was not welcome.
It's gross and totally extreme and really had no place in this
discussion. I can't believe you said such a thing and it lowers my opinion of you. You need some type of help, for that description alone. I wish you the best.
Your mixing apples and oranges here.
Here are my responses,
"Why is it so hard for you to admit that you and your wife made a mistake in parenting and are the root cause"
It's not hard to admit it. We didn't make a mistake, we fought
back against an idiotic rule. Not the uniform policy itself,
just that it shouldn't be applyed on picture, it's that simple.
If the school can have so-called "tag" days when kids dress out
and bring a dollar to school, it doesn't seem like the end of civilization as we know it to dress nicely on SCHOOL SPONSORED
picture day. THAT'S OUR OPINION & POSITION.
"As much as I disagree with your daughter's not receiving a suitable work area"
Is that all you can do is "disagree" with them sticking my daughter in a large auditorium, unsupervised the entire day??
I have a feeling that you would have MUCH MORE than disagreed
if it would have been YOUR DAUGHTER.
In fact, I'm POSITIVE of that!
What if there would have been an emergency such as a fire or bomb threat. Do you think they would have remembered about
my child??? Whose to say really??
When I said that to one of the school board members,
the lady actually blushed!
"You and your wife have a duty to teach her that school rules must be followed"
You're partially right.
We have a duty to teach her that ALL rules must be followed, not just school rules. But we must also teach that there are stupid,
idiotic rules that people make without taking all things into
consideration.
Because a certain rule is implemented, that doesn't mean it's right. When I was growing up there was a missed homework
rule. If you missed homework you had to stick your hand out
in front of the class while the teacher wacked your open palm
with a ruler. That's was the class rule so I guess in your eyes,
being that it was an accepted rule, that would be ok!??
I think not.
I see no difference here.
We need to use good judgement when following rules.
Just because it's a rule, that doesn't make it right.
There are plenty of bad rules and laws, haven't you noticed??
Sam
samsr
I didn't mean for you to like my comment, I meant for it to make you look ahead to the potential and most horrible consequence of teaching a child that rules are subjective and without potentially serious consequences when broken. It is no sign of my needing any kind of 'help'; but, thank you for expressing concern for my welfare.
Frankly, I would not have wanted my daughter to stick out like a sore thumb in the yearbook photos. Even if my daughter had pitched a fit to wear a dress, she would have gone to school in the uniform as required. Never would I have encouraged my child to do anything that did not comply with the rules and regulations of the school.
I taught my children that rules are to be followed whether or not they agree with the rules and AFTER they have followed the rules, if they strongly believe the rule should be changed, THEN take it up with the proper authorities and seek to effect a change (even if that proper authority was me).
I never expected my children to like every rule that they had to obey; I expected them to obey the rules or suffer the consequences. I made every conscious effort to set the example of following rules and regulations, not the opposite.
EC
I didn't mean for you to like my comment, I meant for it to make you look ahead to the potential and most horrible consequence of teaching a child that rules are subjective and without potentially serious consequences when broken. It is no sign of my needing any kind of 'help'; but, thank you for expressing concern for my welfare.
Frankly, I would not have wanted my daughter to stick out like a sore thumb in the yearbook photos. Even if my daughter had pitched a fit to wear a dress, she would have gone to school in the uniform as required. Never would I have encouraged my child to do anything that did not comply with the rules and regulations of the school.
I taught my children that rules are to be followed whether or not they agree with the rules and AFTER they have followed the rules, if they strongly believe the rule should be changed, THEN take it up with the proper authorities and seek to effect a change (even if that proper authority was me).
I never expected my children to like every rule that they had to obey; I expected them to obey the rules or suffer the consequences. I made every conscious effort to set the example of following rules and regulations, not the opposite.
EC
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samsr
Guest
I Do Value Your Opinion.
You said,
"Frankly, I would not have wanted my daughter to stick out like a sore thumb in the yearbook photos"
Would like to clear something up here if there was a misunderstanding:
This was the INDIVIDUAL child school picture day,
the GROUP picture is not for another 3 weeks.
OF COURSE, we will send her in uniform for the group picture!
I don't think that would make any difference to most of this group,
though.
Sam
You said,
"Frankly, I would not have wanted my daughter to stick out like a sore thumb in the yearbook photos"
Would like to clear something up here if there was a misunderstanding:
This was the INDIVIDUAL child school picture day,
the GROUP picture is not for another 3 weeks.
OF COURSE, we will send her in uniform for the group picture!
I don't think that would make any difference to most of this group,
though.
Sam
S
samsr
Guest
To Bigfoot :
Your comments offer no substance, it may take you a few minutes
to form a thought, but at least make an attempt.
I think you're hanging around "classes of hormone-laden 8th graders" too often, you need to separate your work from your
private life. Once that's done, it's going to be alright for you,
I think............
Sam
Your comments offer no substance, it may take you a few minutes
to form a thought, but at least make an attempt.
I think you're hanging around "classes of hormone-laden 8th graders" too often, you need to separate your work from your
private life. Once that's done, it's going to be alright for you,
I think............
Sam
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