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rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
baystategirl said:
Dear...You really do need to get over yourself! I know that Doctors are supposed to be arrogant...but my dear..you are not there yet.

You are challange a Sr. Member whos credentials have been varified...

Rmet personally has helped me when my little one was Dx with PDD...I was directed to resourses that I would not have know about and she has always taken the time to answer my many questions...with kind and INTELLIGENT answers!

As for the 14,000+ posts...yahoo! What you seem to think of as a fault makes her a knowledgeable and trusted Sr Member!!...and you dont have to spend the day on the net to accrue those posts...an hour ot two would do it...

Try to overcome your visions of godhood...you still have a long way to go!;)
Thank You! :)
 


weenor

Senior Member
loveumms said:
Yes, I am young (23 to be exact) and I’m sure I have plenty to learn but, I won’t be learning it from anything on this thread or any guidance you have to offer. Well, except for the ability to let things roll off my back and get a few great laughs at the same time.
Well I hoped you have learned few other things as well...while you have posted your self aggrandizing responses regarding your alleged medical knowledge you have ignored the obvious...your a medical student diagnosing your dog in an effort to extort $246.00 from a breeder because of a common illness for which the etiology cannot be sufficiently determined to support a breach of contract claim. Let me dumb it down for you...you did not have a cause of action...and no judge is going to give a rip that you and your "colleagues" think the dog got kennel cough from the breeder's kennel. That is not legal proof. Your questions were answered very early on and your posts are merely an effort to "show off" how smart you are in an obvious attempt to alleviate your insecurity.

Its ok to be young...its not ok to be so caught up on the need to be right....take a deep breath and let it go.:cool:
 

loveumms

Member
As for me needing a dose of reality. I have had MANY patients who have not been grateful for what I've done for them. I actually had a homeless guy spit in my face after I got done stapling his gapping knife wound (which was acquired when he was assaulted by a drug dealer). Instead of being mad about it, I got him one of the left over lunches knowing that he needed kindness more then I needed to feel anger.

I've also had many patients that have been grateful. Either way, I still walked away feeling that I had done good, learned something and hopefully bettered the patients life (one way of the other).

Having respect for my patients is completely different then having respect for anonymous people on an internet forum. I have utter respect for them because they let me into their lives, if only for a brief moment and allow me to learn through their disease and hardships. They DO deserve my respect.

I doubt my colleagues were laughing at me since they agreed that the dog was sick and it was likely from the breeder. What they found funny was rmet4nzkx post about the 'gift' and how everything just spiraled from there.

The Tickle IQ test reference was a joke – you know a haha. Not meant to be serious.

rmet4nzkx, I think I have been just as respectful to you as you have been to me. There has been plenty of name calling and insults going both ways.

In response to ellencees comment that “a few good nurses are waiting to bring him/her into the real medical world” – not sure what you are getting at but, if a nurse ever put me in my place I would take it as a compliment. I hold nurses in very high regards since I come from a family of nurses (my mother and my aunt are both nurses). Not sure really why you would say that – unless you come from the age where nurses were not considered equals with physicians (one of my attendings said that you can always “look down” for help – referring to asking nurses for help – totally unprofessional in my opinion). That def isn’t the case anymore – everyone on the medical team contributes equally to patient care so, when a nurse corrects me or tells me I’m wrong I listen and LEARN since they obviously know something that I don’t.

I don’t think I am a God and I also don’t think I’m arrogant. Self-confident, yes.
There is nothing wrong with that. I would bet that my patients don’t think I’m arrogant either, since several of them have thanked me profusely for taking the time to listen and having the compassion to care.

I didn’t try to extort $246.00 from the breeder – I asked her to pay $80 (the cost of the medicines plus one of the blood draws). Which, might I say one more time they said they would pay for in the beginning.

I don't need to show off how smart I am - I have enough self confidence to know that I am very intelligent and believe me, if I wanted to show off my intelligence, I wouldn't be doing it on an internet forum where the members don't know me from the guy walking next to them on the street. Knowing that I’m intelligent is enough for me – thanks.

I also don’t always need to be right. I admit when I’m wrong (and this early in my career it is often). I don’t try to pretend to know about something if I don’t – I ask for help. I do however, defend myself.

Deep breath in – deep breath out ... all gone ;)
 

Just Blue

Senior Member
loveumms said:
As for me needing a dose of reality. I have had MANY patients who have not been grateful for what I've done for them. I actually had a homeless guy spit in my face after I got done stapling his gapping knife wound (which was acquired when he was assaulted by a drug dealer). Instead of being mad about it, I got him one of the left over lunches knowing that he needed kindness more then I needed to feel anger.

I've also had many patients that have been grateful. Either way, I still walked away feeling that I had done good, learned something and hopefully bettered the patients life (one way of the other).

Having respect for my patients is completely different then having respect for anonymous people on an internet forum. I have utter respect for them because they let me into their lives, if only for a brief moment and allow me to learn through their disease and hardships. They DO deserve my respect.

I doubt my colleagues were laughing at me since they agreed that the dog was sick and it was likely from the breeder. What they found funny was rmet4nzkx post about the 'gift' and how everything just spiraled from there.

The Tickle IQ test reference was a joke – you know a haha. Not meant to be serious.

rmet4nzkx, I think I have been just as respectful to you as you have been to me. There has been plenty of name calling and insults going both ways.

In response to ellencees comment that “a few good nurses are waiting to bring him/her into the real medical world” – not sure what you are getting at but, if a nurse ever put me in my place I would take it as a compliment. I hold nurses in very high regards since I come from a family of nurses (my mother and my aunt are both nurses). Not sure really why you would say that – unless you come from the age where nurses were not considered equals with physicians (one of my attendings said that you can always “look down” for help – referring to asking nurses for help – totally unprofessional in my opinion). That def isn’t the case anymore – everyone on the medical team contributes equally to patient care so, when a nurse corrects me or tells me I’m wrong I listen and LEARN since they obviously know something that I don’t.

I don’t think I am a God and I also don’t think I’m arrogant. Self-confident, yes.
There is nothing wrong with that. I would bet that my patients don’t think I’m arrogant either, since several of them have thanked me profusely for taking the time to listen and having the compassion to care.

I didn’t try to extort $246.00 from the breeder – I asked her to pay $80 (the cost of the medicines plus one of the blood draws). Which, might I say one more time they said they would pay for in the beginning.

I don't need to show off how smart I am - I have enough self confidence to know that I am very intelligent and believe me, if I wanted to show off my intelligence, I wouldn't be doing it on an internet forum where the members don't know me from the guy walking next to them on the street. Knowing that I’m intelligent is enough for me – thanks.

I also don’t always need to be right. I admit when I’m wrong (and this early in my career it is often). I don’t try to pretend to know about something if I don’t – I ask for help. I do however, defend myself.

Deep breath in – deep breath out ... all gone ;)
Good! Much luck to you!:)
 

ellencee

Senior Member
loveumms said:
As for me needing a dose of reality. I have had MANY patients who have not been grateful for what I've done for them. I actually had a homeless guy spit in my face after I got done stapling his gapping knife wound (which was acquired when he was assaulted by a drug dealer). Instead of being mad about it, I got him one of the left over lunches knowing that he needed kindness more then I needed to feel anger.

I've also had many patients that have been grateful. Either way, I still walked away feeling that I had done good, learned something and hopefully bettered the patients life (one way of the other).

Having respect for my patients is completely different then having respect for anonymous people on an internet forum. I have utter respect for them because they let me into their lives, if only for a brief moment and allow me to learn through their disease and hardships. They DO deserve my respect.

I doubt my colleagues were laughing at me since they agreed that the dog was sick and it was likely from the breeder. What they found funny was rmet4nzkx post about the 'gift' and how everything just spiraled from there.

The Tickle IQ test reference was a joke – you know a haha. Not meant to be serious.

rmet4nzkx, I think I have been just as respectful to you as you have been to me. There has been plenty of name calling and insults going both ways.

In response to ellencees comment that “a few good nurses are waiting to bring him/her into the real medical world” – not sure what you are getting at but, if a nurse ever put me in my place I would take it as a compliment. I hold nurses in very high regards since I come from a family of nurses (my mother and my aunt are both nurses). Not sure really why you would say that – unless you come from the age where nurses were not considered equals with physicians (one of my attendings said that you can always “look down” for help – referring to asking nurses for help – totally unprofessional in my opinion). That def isn’t the case anymore – everyone on the medical team contributes equally to patient care so, when a nurse corrects me or tells me I’m wrong I listen and LEARN since they obviously know something that I don’t.

I don’t think I am a God and I also don’t think I’m arrogant. Self-confident, yes.
There is nothing wrong with that. I would bet that my patients don’t think I’m arrogant either, since several of them have thanked me profusely for taking the time to listen and having the compassion to care.

I didn’t try to extort $246.00 from the breeder – I asked her to pay $80 (the cost of the medicines plus one of the blood draws). Which, might I say one more time they said they would pay for in the beginning.

I don't need to show off how smart I am - I have enough self confidence to know that I am very intelligent and believe me, if I wanted to show off my intelligence, I wouldn't be doing it on an internet forum where the members don't know me from the guy walking next to them on the street. Knowing that I’m intelligent is enough for me – thanks.

I also don’t always need to be right. I admit when I’m wrong (and this early in my career it is often). I don’t try to pretend to know about something if I don’t – I ask for help. I do however, defend myself.

Deep breath in – deep breath out ... all gone ;)
Get real! I am from the era when we allow such physicians to have patients in our hospital.
EC
 

BlondiePB

Senior Member
loveumms said:
As for me needing a dose of reality. I have had MANY patients who have not been grateful for what I've done for them. I actually had a homeless guy spit in my face after I got done stapling his gapping knife wound (which was acquired when he was assaulted by a drug dealer). Instead of being mad about it, I got him one of the left over lunches knowing that he needed kindness more then I needed to feel anger.

I've also had many patients that have been grateful. Either way, I still walked away feeling that I had done good, learned something and hopefully bettered the patients life (one way of the other).

Having respect for my patients is completely different then having respect for anonymous people on an internet forum. I have utter respect for them because they let me into their lives, if only for a brief moment and allow me to learn through their disease and hardships. They DO deserve my respect.

I doubt my colleagues were laughing at me since they agreed that the dog was sick and it was likely from the breeder. What they found funny was rmet4nzkx post about the 'gift' and how everything just spiraled from there.

The Tickle IQ test reference was a joke – you know a haha. Not meant to be serious.

rmet4nzkx, I think I have been just as respectful to you as you have been to me. There has been plenty of name calling and insults going both ways.

In response to ellencees comment that “a few good nurses are waiting to bring him/her into the real medical world” – not sure what you are getting at but, if a nurse ever put me in my place I would take it as a compliment. I hold nurses in very high regards since I come from a family of nurses (my mother and my aunt are both nurses). Not sure really why you would say that – unless you come from the age where nurses were not considered equals with physicians (one of my attendings said that you can always “look down” for help – referring to asking nurses for help – totally unprofessional in my opinion). That def isn’t the case anymore – everyone on the medical team contributes equally to patient care so, when a nurse corrects me or tells me I’m wrong I listen and LEARN since they obviously know something that I don’t.

I don’t think I am a God and I also don’t think I’m arrogant. Self-confident, yes.
There is nothing wrong with that. I would bet that my patients don’t think I’m arrogant either, since several of them have thanked me profusely for taking the time to listen and having the compassion to care.

I didn’t try to extort $246.00 from the breeder – I asked her to pay $80 (the cost of the medicines plus one of the blood draws). Which, might I say one more time they said they would pay for in the beginning.

I don't need to show off how smart I am - I have enough self confidence to know that I am very intelligent and believe me, if I wanted to show off my intelligence, I wouldn't be doing it on an internet forum where the members don't know me from the guy walking next to them on the street. Knowing that I’m intelligent is enough for me – thanks.

I also don’t always need to be right. I admit when I’m wrong (and this early in my career it is often). I don’t try to pretend to know about something if I don’t – I ask for help. I do however, defend myself.

Deep breath in – deep breath out ... all gone ;)
:rolleyes:
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
loveumms said:
As for me needing a dose of reality. I have had MANY patients who have not been grateful for what I've done for them. I actually had a homeless guy spit in my face after I got done stapling his gapping knife wound (which was acquired when he was assaulted by a drug dealer). Instead of being mad about it, I got him one of the left over lunches knowing that he needed kindness more then I needed to feel anger.
That is one event, you are to be commended for extending kindness, but did that same patient become the focus of unkind talk later? Were your actions meant to impress your superiors?

I've also had many patients that have been grateful. Either way, I still walked away feeling that I had done good, learned something and hopefully bettered the patients life (one way of the other).
For the most part you will only have a response a small percentage of the time, even when you don't help a patient or harm them, simply because it is not worth the time and effort to pierce your defenses. As a student you are protected and allowed to make mistakes, don't waste the lesson.

Having respect for my patients is completely different then having respect for anonymous people on an internet forum. I have utter respect for them because they let me into their lives, if only for a brief moment and allow me to learn through their disease and hardships. They DO deserve my respect.
Every person deserves your respect. Those of us who have responded to you here, deserve your respect. We have not responded to you out of hate, anger or frustration, we responded because we care, even though your behavior here has left much to be desired. Have you heard of the "Golden Rule"?

I doubt my colleagues were laughing at me since they agreed that the dog was sick and it was likely from the breeder. What they found funny was rmet4nzkx post about the 'gift' and how everything just spiraled from there.
Of course they ASSUMED it was the breeder's fault, You presented the case so that was the only assumption they could make and they don't treat animals, nor were they invested in any way to seek the true cause. But if they were defending a med-mal lawsuit they would have a different perspective, and guess who would be the scaprgoat?

The Tickle IQ test reference was a joke – you know a haha. Not meant to be serious.
well you take everything so literally down to accusing me of plagerism and calling me stupid, no it was not a joke, it was meant to boost your ego at the expense of another

rmet4nzkx, I think I have been just as respectful to you as you have been to me. There has been plenty of name calling and insults going both ways.
You have been disrepctful, you are the one making accusations, calling names and throwing insults. At post 54 I called you Missy, that did not give you cause for all the other insults.

In response to ellencees comment that “a few good nurses are waiting to bring him/her into the real medical world” – not sure what you are getting at but, if a nurse ever put me in my place I would take it as a compliment. I hold nurses in very high regards since I come from a family of nurses (my mother and my aunt are both nurses). Not sure really why you would say that – unless you come from the age where nurses were not considered equals with physicians (one of my attendings said that you can always “look down” for help – referring to asking nurses for help – totally unprofessional in my opinion). That def isn’t the case anymore – everyone on the medical team contributes equally to patient care so, when a nurse corrects me or tells me I’m wrong I listen and LEARN since they obviously know something that I don’t.
You are a med student, nurses are above you at this point, you have closed you mind to the opportunities to learn here. Even so, you come back, so there is the potential that you will receive your Epiphany

I don’t think I am a God and I also don’t think I’m arrogant. Self-confident, yes.
Missy, it is "a god" with a little "G"" not the big man/woman upstairs. ;)
There is nothing wrong with that. I would bet that my patients don’t think I’m arrogant either, since several of them have thanked me profusely for taking the time to listen and having the compassion to care.
You are over confident and "Pride cometh before a fall" (Bible). I hope that your parents love you with unconditional love and accepatance, they can not and should noe be objective, that is not their job. What you are getting here is one objecitve voice from a number of people who don't always agree. We encounter this all th etime, poster being upset because they didn't get the advice they wanted.

I didn’t try to extort $246.00 from the breeder – I asked her to pay $80 (the cost of the medicines plus one of the blood draws). Which, might I say one more time they said they would pay for in the beginning.
But the facts in evidence prove that it wasn't their responsibility. You claimed your dog got the infection at their facility, whereas you couldn't prove it. You threatening to take them to court when you know you don't have a cause of aciton and can't meet the burden of proof. Your case is frivilious and tanamont to extortion. Not only that, but the cost of taking it to court for $80 when you are going to lose lacks in intelligence. "Discretion is the better part of valor". If you were to take the breeder to court and she countersued, you would be responsible for her costs, etc.

I don't need to show off how smart I am - I have enough self confidence to know that I am very intelligent and believe me, if I wanted to show off my intelligence, I wouldn't be doing it on an internet forum where the members don't know me from the guy walking next to them on the street. Knowing that I’m intelligent is enough for me – thanks.
Then why are you acting to defensive?

I also don’t always need to be right. I admit when I’m wrong (and this early in my career it is often). I don’t try to pretend to know about something if I don’t – I ask for help. I do however, defend myself.

Deep breath in – deep breath out ... all gone ;)
You seem to have got these out of sequence.

I am still waiting. ;)
 

loveumms

Member
No – the patient was not the focus of unkind talk. My superiors were not even around … the attending was in the OR and the residents were working a code. We were slammed that night and I got the man food b/c I knew he was hungry and in excruciating pain.

I didn’t get into medicine to be acknowledged. I got into it for the love of science and people.

I disagree with the statement that every person deserves my respect. There are MANY people who actually don’t deserve it. I have taken care of patients who had been so terribly injured in a car accident where a drunk driver was involved – I have seen people die from gun shot wounds – have had friends who were raped. The people that committed these crimes don’t deserve my respect.

I thanked you for your advice (post #7 at the bottom) and am thankful for those that answered me. But, no not all that responded deserve my respect. When I asked you about your profession and mentioned that I might be interested in doing similar work you responded in a not so nice manner. I don’t want to be an expert witness – I was actually thinking more along the lines of a consultant but was genuinely interested in your work.

You didn’t really answer my question – instead you basically said that you have a gift that no matter how much education I attain will never have. And, to be honest if anyone is being defensive that post definitely had defensive undertones. You don’t know me, I don’t know you. All I asked was how one becomes an expert witness, I didn’t ask for an analysis of my qualifications – and I highly doubt that one could make such analysis based on five posts. And then it all fell apart.

Yes, I have heard of the Golden Rule – treat others as you want to be treated. I do.

Google search kennel cough, or better yet click the link I provided … then look at your post and tell me there are not enough similarities to raise questions. When I said you plagiarized my “get over yourself” – that was yet another joke. I thought that you would at least be able to come up with a novel way to say it.

Ummmm – look at post 27, 38, 43 and 46. I feel like it all started after your “gift” post – it was very offensive and condescending to me, all I did after that was state how I felt. Whether it’s the truth or not doesn’t really matter to me, it was how I felt and I am a brutally honest person.

I am a med student – nurses are not above or below me. Everyone on the team is equal – that is the point of a team. Some contribute more then others but everyone is uniformly important in patient care. Of course, I don't think I'm equal with the attending and I may not be making executive decisions on patient care but, my purpose on the team is to gather data and get to know my patients - something the residents, nurses, attendings, phlebotmists, ect don't have time to do. At my institution they stress the team concept.

I didn’t get upset b/c I didn’t get the answer I wanted. I actually valued the advice and to be 100% honest after I was told that I didn’t have a case I had already made up my mind that I wasn’t going to go to file a suit. I still argued my case b/c I felt it was wrong how things ended up – breeder said they would pay, then didn’t. I was mad but, I didn’t ever threaten the breeder with a suit … I was just curious if I would have to go to her county to file a claim (and hence the reason I came here in the first place).

I don’t consider that defensive – just stating the truth.


What are you still waiting for???? Thought I already told you I’m not answering your questions.
 
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ellencee

Senior Member
rmet
Please stop responding to this child "medical student". More likely than not, this poster is in high school or first year college. There has never been anything in his/her posts that even hints at a higher level of learning. The poster has used outdated medical-speak at each reference to some "medical" fact.

I'm sending an email to Mary, asking her to lock this thread. Before I do, there is one thing that needs to be clarified. Registered Nurses and Physicians are not the same profession and as such, there is no up, down, or lateral relationship. RNs are not responsible to any physician nor can any physician evaluate the performance of an RN. None but an RN can evaluate the performance of an RN; however, RNs must know the standards of care required by every other healthcare discipline and thus, RNs can evaluate the performance of physicians and all other healthcare professional/nonprofessionals.

And for the original poster. You have no seller default on any aspect of the original sales contract. As you have been told before, you can not sue based on your conversations with the seller; even if the seller agreed to reimburse you for the vet expenses,it is not a valid contract and you have no recourse.
Sit down and shut up.

EC
 
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rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
ellencee said:
rmet
Please stop responding to this child "medical student". More likely than not, this poster is in high school or first year college. There has never been anything in his/her posts that even hints at a higher level of learning. The poster has used outdated medical-speak at each reference to some "medical" fact.

I'm sending an email to Mary, asking her to lock this thread. Before I do, there is one thing that needs to be clarified. Registered Nurses and Physicians are not the same profession and as such, there is no up, down, or lateral relationship. RNs are not responsible to any physician nor can any physician evaluate the performance of an RN. None but an RN can evaluate the performance of an RN; however, RNs must know the standards of care required by every other healthcare discipline and thus, RNs can evaluate the performance of physicians and all other healthcare professional/nonprofessionals.

And for the original poster. You have no seller default on any aspect of the original sales contract. As you have been told before, you can not sue based on your conversations with the seller; even if the seller agreed to reimburse you for the vet expenses,it is not a valid contract and you have no recourse.
Sit down and shut up.

EC
That's why I asked the question I did because even if she was in high school or college and not in med school she would be able to research the question and give an answer, noen of which would be harmful in any way to her, just as she could have researched her puppy's health problems and realized she could not prove it was caused by the breeder.
 

justalayman

Senior Member
loveumms said:
What state do you reside in? Maryland

OK - I've done some research but still am not sure what to do. I bought a dog from a breeder in a different state then where I reside

Thanks so much for any advice :) .
Sorry I'm so late to the party folks, I just that since figured the OP was smart enough to get into med school she would be smart enough to realize their arguements here show more of their "soul" than would be wise to.

In the very first post, the OP showed why the breeder refused to co-operate with her. The OP stars with "the dog got an infectious disease after I recieved it". Well, if you're a dit (doc in training)(now you know all your friends were really being nice when they called you a ditz) you showed real lack of skills here. That statement shows your lack of dit skills. It should have been, "the dog presented with symptoms" or something similarly medical sounding. You seemed to like using med terms. (Unless of course the OP already felt as if they were "better than the forum members" and felt they needed to "dumb down" their terminology.)
You are the one who, by this admission, accepted the dog got the illness after you recieved it. I know this is not what you meant, but that would require me to make an assumption and since you told us all about your skills and knowledge, I don't think I should have to make such an assumtion. If you want to be a doc, you better sharpen up your terminology.

You then go on to state you had an agreement with the breeder for the anti-biotics. YOU then unilaterally decide to alter your agreement and request half of all the med bills and then you decided, hell we'll shoot for the moon and go for it all. Which the breeder wisely declined to accept.

Through all your ranting, you have never presented evidence the breeder offered any warranty on the dog. If you are concerned about a purebred dog, you should have also investigated the breeder. Was this breeder an AKC member. A member of any dog association? There are ways to investigate AND make complaints against breeders who are members of many dog associstions that possibly would have given you relief easier than going to court for $250. But that would be due diligence on your part and since your career doesn't require that,,oops, yes it does. Well there is another skill you better sharpen up on.

Then you make a comment as to the education level of the breeder with "didn't use puncuation and her spelling was very 4th grade". Well I'll tell you, that kind of conclusion with no corroberating evidence will get you real far in the legal world. Oh, you are a dit, that's right, you don't need to worry about understanding a patient before you come to a conclusion. Oh what was that, you DO need to do that? Well I guess there is another skill you need to work on.

I am not going to go any further with this, you have proven yourself to be so much less than you believe you are.. If you are as intelligent as you think you are, you will realize you are FAR from becoming a doctor. Hopefully your intelligence will allow you to develope wisdom some day. You obvioulsy are lacking in that area as well. Here you are arguing about $250 when hitting the books would be a much wiser thing to be doing.

While your doing research, try researching this forum for rmet's work here. She has shown the knowledge, insightfulness, ability, training, and the GIFT to have earned the respect of the folks here, as well as, I'm sure, those that can be considered her peers. (which I don't even consider trying to claim myself as)

Yes I said gift. I'll tell you this, I have known many intelligent folks. Each of them with abilities in their chosen field. I have also known those that have a gift for what they do. Although those without a "gift" often become good at what they do, a "gifted" person becomes great.

So get over yourself.

Realize that $250 bucks is really not that much (heck, it cost me nearly that just to get my dog checked and a round of shots).
You should have much more important things to be doing.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
Justalayman,
Thank You for your kind words.
I've been pondering this for a few days and yesterday encountered one on my walk, I believe OP may have been better matched with a Jack Russell Terrier, both are fiesty ;)
 

ellencee

Senior Member
I'm not seeing any explanation for why a contract does not exist for the vet bills. It is my understanding that a contract can not be established after the fact--that the OP can not enforce a contract for reimbursement of vet/medication expenses when such contract was sought after the poster obtained and paid for the vet/medication. For there to have been any contract, the seller would have had to agree to pay the expenses before the dog was ever taken to the vet and most certainly the contract would have to be in specific terms, not "I may be willing to pay X".

EC
 

loveumms

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Thanks for all the advice. I'm done trying to explain myself and defend my medical knowledge and my talents. I didn't try to dumb down anything ... I didn't know if everyone had medical knowledge and I know when I am talking to my patients I always try to describe things in laymans terms since some doctors walk into a patients room, talk to the patient, walk out and the patient turns to me and goes "what the heck did they just say???".

I have no idea what "outdated" medical terminology I used - I'm a third year medical student, learning all the "latest" medical terminology. Granted, I am not as fluent as an attending but, then again I'm still learning (aka the point of being in med school). Furthermore, I have had plenty of education – graduated in the top of my high school class then went on to graduate magna cum laude at a wonderful college and got into med school where I am still surviving.

I never said that docs and nurses are on the same level – I said that everyone on the patient care team is an equal. We are all there to take care of the patient and everyone serves a certain purpose.

I certainly will not “sit down and shut up”.

I don’t think I am better then anyone – I’m a human being just like everyone else. Wisdom comes with age and since I am still young, I’m sure I have a lot of wisdom to gain. When I first started med school I wanted to do geriatrics b/c I love talking with the elderly and hearing all their stories – gives me the opportunity to learn from their lives and the mistakes they made.

rmet - I'm sure if we met in life we would get along just fine and if we met at a function would probably have interesting conversation. I tend to get along with people who are very opinionated. I love defending my views and having someone that has completely different views. Always makes for fun conversation and normally I walk away with a different way to look at the topic. When people say things on the internet sometimes they come out incorrect making. Maybe I took the “gift” post wrong and thought that you were attacking my intelligence and before that it seemed that you were questioning my devotion and ability to take care of my dog.

I didn’t look up your question but am curious on how a medical student would just know the answer to it without looking it up and how this would have differentiated me from a person that wasn’t in med school. Everything we have learned about in class or on the wards has either been in our text books, journal articles, on Up to date or another medical reference. How else would I be able to answer a question?

Follow up with the breeder: we have talked and she told me that she has moved all the puppies into a different facility, disinfecting the cages/water and food bowls and sleeping quarters twice daily, had vets come out and check for a reason this is occurring and bought a new batch of vaccines. So, in the end she has made changes and is trying to make sure this doesn’t happen again. I'm not going to get anything from them but at least I know they have taken steps to make sure this doesn't happen to anyone else and that makes me happy.
 
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