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wildncrazy

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how many times must we tell you your husband has NO rights?

BelizeBreeze said:
The ONLY issue I will answer is your last one.

Your now husband, upon your death, has no rights. The child will go to his father or, if the court finds him unfit, will work down the biological chain.

Your now husband is just like any other stranger off the street.
and whoever gets custody can refuse to allow your husband contact with the boy, and there would be NOTHING your husband could do about it. is that clear enough for you now?
 


Punkyb830

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Yeah I got that message a long time ago. But since people where still asking questions and still commenting I was engaging with them.
 

GottaGo

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Hi punky. As I have learned on this site within the last two days, you can get some legal advice here (tempered with a bit of judgement and sometimes the advice-givers own issues), but the advice-givers, whatever their qualifications may be, do not have to break it to you gently. If you want that, pay someone. They give you advice here, not comfort. Takes a bit of a tough skin sometimes.
Good luck to you, sorry to hear about your situation. i understand your feelings. I am sure I would feel the same.
 

casa

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Punkyb830 said:
What is the name of your state? Missouri

My 12 yr old son saw his biological father for the first time, last week. We where never married and he has never had any thing to do with him and has paid little to no support.
Since we where never married there was never a custidy hearing or anything. Child support enforcement has him labeled as non-custodial parent and he is ordered to pay 50 dollars a month but will pay 2-3 months and then go a yr or more without paying anything. I am not worried about money, i am more worried about my son getting to know him, I'm just trying to tell you his patterns.

Untill about a month ago my son thought that my husband was his bio father. My husband and I got together when my son was about a month old, so since his bio never stepped up my husband has always claimed him as his own son. We finally decided we needed to tell my son the truth because we always worry that someone else might tell him and we wanted him to hear it from us. So we told him and left it up to him if he wanted to meet his bio, and he did. His bio claims to have relized he made a mistake in not stepping up before and now wants a relationship with him. Witch my husband and I (though hard) want to give my son that opprotunity.

I told The Bio from the beginning to make the decision if he wanted to come around or not and not to make promises he couldnt keep. I also told him that we needed to take things a step at a time and start off with suprivised visits worked into 1-2 hr visits and eventually every other weekend visits etc. He agreed. So he meets him last week, buys him a birthday present. Then he calls him twice since then.

Heres where my problem comes in: He calls me tonight and tells me that he lives in low income apartments (that fact I already knew) and that its a 2 bedroom and him his wife and 2 boys are very crowded, so he went to the housing authority and told them that he was going to start getting visits with his other son, so he needed a 3 bedroom apartment so they would have plenty of room. They told him they would have to have my sons social security number, and he asked me if I would give it to him. I told him I wasnt sure. To me this sounds very suspicious, but even if thats the real reason he wants the number, I think its wrong that he's already using my son to gain personal benifit.

Then my son tells him on the phone that he wishes he could see him this weekend and he tells my son that he can come spend the weekend if I say its okay and that they will go fishing and do this and that and so my sons all excited and I have to explain to him that I have'nt had anything to do with is bio for almost 12 years, so that we don't really know him and my son does'nt really know him and we have to all take the time to build trust and a relationship before I will feel comfortable letting him take him. So of course my son was very upset and crying and I had to try and make him understand that I had to protect him
etc. So the Bio is already over stepping the guidelines he agreed to.

So I am nervous and don't quite know what the bio may be up to. I want to make sure that my husband and I have our rights defined so I can protect my son and us in case he tried to pull something. Since the Bio and I where never married and my husband and I have rasied my son on our own and he's never come around, does the bio have any legal rights? What are my rights? And what do I have to do to make sure that if I died tomorrow, no one could take my son away from my husband?
I was really hopeing and still am, that everything would go smooth for my sons sake. I don't want to be fighting with his Bio, I just want to do whats best for my son.

What is the name of your state? Missouri
You've been correctly advised legally...I'd like to just give you some personal thoughts re; your concerns.

My oldest child (albeit younger than 12, but not by too many years) had a bio father absent for a number of years- no support, no contact. He too, got married and had more children, and realized what he'd been missing.

What worked wonders for us was counseling. We set it up so a counselor could work out a visitation plan that matched our needs. They started their initial visits at a playground nearby the counseling center. It is several years later now, and they have an important relationship. I've never regretted the decision to allow (& not fight) my child's right to know her father. I strongly suggest counseling- for a nuetral/professional opinion on duration and location of visitation.

Re; the housing authority- it is true that the authority would need this information. Considering the bio father's children are younger than your son- having an extra room for visitation is not only courteous but good parenting. IMO
Contact the housing authority and explain the situation and offer to give an authorized representative the SS#.

Outline all visitation proposals in writing (or email) etc. so there is some documentation of your agreement, should it be disputed later.

Good Luck
 

fairisfair

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wildncrazy said:
and whoever gets custody can refuse to allow your husband contact with the boy, and there would be NOTHING your husband could do about it. is that clear enough for you now?
and how many times must they tell YOU. Go Away!
 

Punkyb830

Member
GottaGo said:
Hi punky. As I have learned on this site within the last two days, you can get some legal advice here (tempered with a bit of judgement and sometimes the advice-givers own issues), but the advice-givers, whatever their qualifications may be, do not have to break it to you gently. If you want that, pay someone. They give you advice here, not comfort. Takes a bit of a tough skin sometimes.
Good luck to you, sorry to hear about your situation. i understand your feelings. I am sure I would feel the same.
Oh your right I know. I just thought I would ask why they seemed so angry. I read back and could see where they thought I was'nt getting it, it was'nt my intintion to keep restating the same question, I was trying to comment on all the answers and in the process thats what I did. I also was mistaken in thinking that I was allowed to state my own feelings even if they are'nt legally relivent.
I've noticed on the site that there seems to be alot of people getting snapped at, which your right no one has to cushion their opinion. It's just sad that people come here for advice only to have some one snap at them with their own issues.
Can't we all just get along?
 

GottaGo

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Punky if you notice, the 'angry' ones are the same ones who answer so many questions all over the place. Some of them are actually giving what appears to be good advice, too. They just are not very tactful in their approach. But as I said, they're doing it for free som maybe they feel they don't need to be considerate of others' feelings. or maybe they feel it is kinder to be blunt (or harsh).
And apparently no, we can't all get along, or we wouldn't be here worried about divorce, visitation, and what not!
 

Punkyb830

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Quote:And apparently no, we can't all get along, or we wouldn't be here worried about divorce, visitation, and what not! un Quote:



Lol, Thats very true :eek:)
 
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BelizeBreeze

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GottaGo said:
Punky if you notice, the 'angry' ones are the same ones who answer so many questions all over the place. Some of them are actually giving what appears to be good advice, too. They just are not very tactful in their approach. But as I said, they're doing it for free som maybe they feel they don't need to be considerate of others' feelings. or maybe they feel it is kinder to be blunt (or harsh).
And apparently no, we can't all get along, or we wouldn't be here worried about divorce, visitation, and what not!
And sometimes we get angry because some idiot comes here looking for legal advice, receives it, then ignores it wanting to hear what THEY think is right.

Which doesn't change the fact that she received the relevant legal advice a long time ago and kept ignoring it to plead a case she doesn't have.

Besides, FEELINGS don't mean crap in court. Either learn it now or in front of the judge.
 

Punkyb830

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BelizeBreeze said:
And sometimes we get angry because some idiot comes here looking for legal advice, receives it, then ignores it wanting to hear what THEY think is right.

Which doesn't change the fact that she received the relevant legal advice a long time ago and kept ignoring it to plead a case she doesn't have.

Besides, FEELINGS don't mean crap in court. Either learn it now or in front of the judge.


I did'nt ignore the advice, I get it already. What am I not allowed to talk after that?
 
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