Question for all!

[butterfree]

Response to Grace

I will not allow any type of visitation until a Psycological Evaluation is complete with satisfactory results. This is in the best interest for our children. My children at least deserve it don't you think.

I believe that Mr. raddad (his opinion) baddad (my opinion) has severe mental problems:

1) Our son accused him of molesting him. Not charged due to insufficient evidence. Does not mean it didn't happen??? And he failed two stress-tests given to him. I have a lot of doubts.

2) He wrote profanities all over the walls of our home upon moving to Arizona.

3) He has NEVER willingly paid child-support, that is why it was immediately garnished when he wrote a NSF check to the State of Child-Support Enforcement.

4) Creator of Help4dads & Malicious moms, and most of you know what the content of that was. More like a hate-site against me.

In addition to and very important.

As soon as the "allegation" surfaced, Mr. ?addad (living back in Oregon from Arizona for only two months). When he is confronted from Services to Children and Families, what do you think he does? HE MOVES AWAY!!!

Would'nt you think that an innocent father who cares for his son would stick around to comply with authorities, answer questions and get the investigation to an end so he could be cleared of any wrong doing and see his children?

Nothing more said.

 

[CMSC]

Re: Response to Grace

I will not allow any type of visitation until a Psycological Evaluation is complete with satisfactory results. This is in the best interest for our children. My children at least deserve it don't you think.

I believe that Mr. raddad (his opinion) baddad (my opinion) has severe mental problems:

1) Our son accused him of molesting him. Not charged due to insufficient evidence. Does not mean it didn't happen??? And he failed two stress-tests given to him. I have a lot of doubts.

2) He wrote profanities all over the walls of our home upon moving to Arizona.

3) He has NEVER willingly paid child-support, that is why it was immediately garnished when he wrote a NSF check to the State of Child-Support Enforcement.

4) Creator of Help4dads & Malicious moms, and most of you know what the content of that was. More like a hate-site against me.

In addition to and very important.

As soon as the "allegation" surfaced, Mr. ?addad (living back in Oregon from Arizona for only two months). When he is confronted from Services to Children and Families, what do you think he does? HE MOVES AWAY!!!

Would'nt you think that an innocent father who cares for his son would stick around to comply with authorities, answer questions and get the investigation to an end so he could be cleared of any wrong doing and see his children?

Nothing more said.

what was the stipulation on the supervised visits? I mean he was order a psych. eval and two years later he hadn't had one and was awarded supervised visitation, obviously a judge feels it is important to reunite these children with their father!

You both have done wrong, one of you needs to be the bigger person and so far raddad is the bigger person because he hasn't been on here talking about you at all! I am sure he is biting his tongue but he isn't saying anything! Move on, go to court and bring all this s**t up there and if you want to ask a damn legal question then do it!

 

[karma1]

hmmmm.....

I seem to remember this whole site posting thing starting with a site called deadbeatdads????
I sure hope bug and rad are copying all of these posts-your posting all this info (man, this sounds wayyyyyyy to familiar) out of the blew is not in the best interest of anyone, now, is it??
tick tick tick

 

[Grace_Adler]

Gotta say, I agree 100% with all the other posters on here.

Butterfree, I understand your point about the psych eval, I really do.

You bringing up child support is moot though because visitation and CS are seperate issues in the eyes of the court. However, you were ordered to provide the children for court ordered supervised visitation recently were you not? You did not take them to that visitation you were a no show. I don't think the judge is going to like you going against his orders. Like ryry's mom said, the judge must have felt justified ordering it. If I have my facts wrong, I apologize.

 

[CMSC]

one more thing to point out, raddadthomas's websites concerning you Ms.Cutter, are no more! But yet you continue to have him posted on deadbeatparents!

 

[Lil Miss Smarty Panties]

I don't think help4dads was a hate site dedicated to you. help4dads was just what its title says. I spent hours there gathering useful info. It had oodles of helpful links and I hated to see it go. But he took it down to try to appease you. The malicious moms site wasn't born until you and your paramour posted rad on that deadbeatdads site. tit for tat. it may have been childish but don't dish it out if you can't take it.

He wrote profanities on the walls of his house? hmmm were they all spelled correctly? If I had to give up my house that I payed for to my cheating spouse, I probably would have done more than that. is that why you sold it so cheap? it was $1 to the paramour, right? but hey, maybe the writing on the walls entertained the chickens.

 

[butterfree]

Why all the sarcasm?

I have not complied with the recent Supervised visitation. I wish I could, I really do. I need to know from a professional psychiatrist that Mr. Salts is mentally healthy. Thats all I ask, after everything.


I know you are all "friends" and he has you wrapped around his own version of the truth, but just think about this in a non-biased point of view. Think about the children for petes sake.
If I complied with the supervised visitation and the children saw there father for the first time after 2 years for an hour visit, and than again the next month, our children would expect consistent visits. If the results of the psych-eval show that Mr. Salts needs some serious help and does not recommend him to have visitation with our children any longer, the harm is already done.. How detrimental would that be to our kids? I believe it would severely impact them emotionally.

I was there for them on the onset of the sexual abuse investigation and have been solidly looking out for their best interests since. I am the one that has taken them to counselling and have helped ease their pain. I will not set them up for more pain. If Mr. Salts is found to be OK, then he will be introduced back into their lives at a level to be considered safe by professionals who deal with abuse. If he's not found suitable, then all remains as is (whomp, there it is, I thought you knew).

Back to my original post: How come he hasn't gotten a psych eval???????
Furtherly, why did he run out of state just when they would need him most (if he's innocent)?

Why don't you ask HIM?

{BTW, I've been told by countless professionals that 6 year old children do not fabricate sexual abuse}

 

[Lil Miss Smarty Panties]

Why are you on here a week before court posting this crap anyway? Are you trying to bait him or what? Thomas and Shannon seldom post here anymore. I think they've been busy shopping for the baby. Perhaps you should just save your questions for the judge. We don't know the answers and he's not going to get into a pissing match with you on here.

 

[haiku]

it amazes me that once people are no longer ANONYMOUS they continue posting personal information on a public website......

 

[CMSC]

it amazes me that once people are no longer ANONYMOUS they continue posting personal information on a public website......

haiku you are so right!

butterfree, I don't think we are all giving raddad a pat on the back or a father of the year award! He needed to do the psych eval and he hasn't. But it was court ordered that he see the kids supervised, maybe the judge wanted that done so he could determine if a psych eval. was really necessary! Do you even know how supervised visitation works?

Have you ever heard of brainwashing? Do you know that I had a child age 6 in my daycare whose parents were divorcing and mom was psychotic! She convinced the 6 year old she was touched by daddy! Well DUH, daddy helped her one day when she had an accident! It took a year of questioning and asking this child the RIGHT questions to discover all this. Guess where psycho mom is know? In jail for false accusations, custodial interference and numerous other charges. She is required to pay restitution to the state for all the evals. done on her ex and her child a total in excess of $98,000!


WE CAN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS! Your questions don't ask any thing legal or even for an opinion, they ask for his answer and we don't know that!

 

[karma1]

Re: Why all the sarcasm?

I have not complied with the recent Supervised visitation. I wish I could, I really do. I need to know from a professional psychiatrist that Mr. Salts is mentally healthy. Thats all I ask, after everything.


I know you are all "friends" and he has you wrapped around his own version of the truth, but just think about this in a non-biased point of view. Think about the children for petes sake.
If I complied with the supervised visitation and the children saw there father for the first time after 2 years for an hour visit, and than again the next month, our children would expect consistent visits. If the results of the psych-eval show that Mr. Salts needs some serious help and does not recommend him to have visitation with our children any longer, the harm is already done.. How detrimental would that be to our kids? I believe it would severely impact them emotionally.

I was there for them on the onset of the sexual abuse investigation and have been solidly looking out for their best interests since. I am the one that has taken them to counselling and have helped ease their pain. I will not set them up for more pain. If Mr. Salts is found to be OK, then he will be introduced back into their lives at a level to be considered safe by professionals who deal with abuse. If he's not found suitable, then all remains as is (whomp, there it is, I thought you knew).

Back to my original post: How come he hasn't gotten a psych eval???????
Furtherly, why did he run out of state just when they would need him most (if he's innocent)?

Why don't you ask HIM?

{BTW, I've been told by countless professionals that 6 year old children do not fabricate sexual abuse}

sounds like you are taking the judges original decision out of the judges hands and I question the "if I complied...." statement....you still can't guarentee, one way or the other, if all goes as you want (the psych eval and then visitation) that dad will continue visitation---so your point is what????
You asked why he has not done the psych eval----on here----ask him then, why dont you? no one here can answer that kind of question for another human being.
I, too, working in daycare, dealt with a 4 yr old that accused the dad of molestation----after thousands of dollars later, turned out the mom put the child up to it to avoid custody determination in court---and mom was smart enought to have 4 yr old say this to a teacher, knowing that it had to be reported....
wonder if this is going on here????

 

[Whyte Noise]

I think the part that miss butterfree keeps forgetting is this.... they went to court and she was ordered to provide the children for a supervised visit one week later. ONE WEEK. Rad may have been ordered to get a psych eval, but when was he ordered to get it? Withn 2 months? Within 6 months? Before the next court date? That's not the point.... the point is that ONE WEEK after the court date visitation was scheduled. Rad drove over 500 miles to be at the visitation center. Miss butterfree didn't show up. Rad did, and has documentation of it. The point is that YOU denied a court ordered visitation ONE WEEK after the udge issued the order. You and you alone will answer to that. You ever think that the judge ordered supervised visits, NOT because he believed your BS story, but because you had kept the boys from their father for so long that they needed to be re-introduced to him?? If the judge had thought Rad so "unsafe" a person for those boys to be around, he would have ORDERED him to have that psych eval that you hold as your reason for denial IMMEDIATELY. Not before the next court date, not 2 months later, not 6 months later, but immediately. BEFORE he would allow Rad to see the boys. BEFORE he scheduled visitation. Did he? NO. He ruled that those boys needed to see their father immediately didn't he? He ordered a visit for the next week, before any eval. was to be done. And YOU denied that. And then, when Rad's lawyer let the judge know that you and your attorney were "disputing" the visitation (And I still don't know why, if you objected, it wasn't addressed at the COURT date. You seemed fine with it then, huh?) your attorney changed that tune real quick, and said that you would be there at the scheduled time. Were you? No.

What you can't seem to get thru your head is this... the judge didn't order Rad to have that eval. before he could see his boys. He did however, order YOU to produce them the next week, and you didn't. Rad didn't violate that court order, YOU did. You are the one that decided he "had" to have that done before you'd allow visitation, not a judge. You decided to take the matter into your own hands. YOU are the one that's going to pay dearly for what you have done to these boys and their father.

 

[CRYROSE1]

ok i know nothing of this case. other that what i just read.
if the judge ordered me to take my kid to see his dad for only ONE hour supervised, and i did not i am in the wrong.
even if the did not get evaluated, i need to be the bigger person.
it was only an hour and supervised - what can he do to the child with others in the same room( and i am guessin it might be taped too for prof) ??
but do you know what you have done to that child by not taking him??
maybe all of you need to have a evalution not just the dad, if fact i might have to go for reading this.
the only opinon that counts right now it the judges and he told you to give supervised visits to the dad.
on the 10th of DEC. from what i read is your court date - i would plan on some possible jail time for contempt if i was you.

i wish you child better luck in the future.

 

[velbing]

Do you know for a fact that he has not undergone the evaluation? Psychatrist is not obligated to provide you with this information, just the Judge.

 

[kidoday]

Butterfree do tell us if you believe Theit needs to be evaluated by a psychiatrist and why his violent episodes would not be harmful for your sons mental well being.