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huskerfan41

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I want to know one thing...

Why didn't Rad file a Writ of Habeas Corpus when butterfree didn't produce the kids for his supervised visits...

This would have required a police officer to find her and bring her to court with the kids -- at whatever time they found her -- and would have placed her in jail if she didn't comply???

sounds like a pretty good case for parental kidnapping...

i'm seriously hoping they shove the book at her -- the damage she has caused is beyond hope...

can someone tell me of rad has a good attorney?

what state has jurisdiction on this...

we can get some fathers' advocates on this -- if it's not too late... or has he already received some assistance... ?

someone email me at [email protected]
 


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Lil Miss Smarty Panties

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Re: Apparently anyone who matters is the last to know. . .

butterfree said:
. . . That doesn't make sense. If he had a psych eval done in June, why didnt we see it in Court in August when the Judge ordered him to have one. Wouldn't you think he would say "Oh Your Honor, I have already completed that hear it is..???

Go figure.

By the way you all are REALLY idiots.

Goodbye, I will go somewhere else to get advice, apparently it is not on these boards no longer now that everyone has been brainwashed. Car salesman are really good at that. IT'S THEIR JOB!!!! Fare the well.
You liar..you know he had the eval and tried to submit it to the court. your attorney objected to it because you suddenly wanted him to have an eval done with a mutally agreed upon doctor. You didn't like the results of the eval so you wanted another one performed.

Try again..... LIAR

Edit: Why do you keep mentioning he's a car salesman? Are we suppose to care? Does that mean he's not a good dad? does that mean he hurts less when his children are hidden from him? I don't give a flying f*ck if he sells cars while shoveling bs. I know how to think, I know how to read, I know how to collect facts. And you have proven yourself a liar.
 
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karma1

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Re: Apparently anyone who matters is the last to know. . .

butterfree said:
. . . That doesn't make sense. If he had a psych eval done in June, why didnt we see it in Court in August when the Judge ordered him to have one. Wouldn't you think he would say "Oh Your Honor, I have already completed that hear it is..???

Go figure.

By the way you all are REALLY idiots.

Goodbye, I will go somewhere else to get advice, apparently it is not on these boards no longer now that everyone has been brainwashed. Car salesman are really good at that. IT'S THEIR JOB!!!! Fare the well.
I'm sorry but I, like ryry, fail to see where you were asking for advice? you asked why he hadnt gotten the psych eval done and many responded that he had.....having read the document myself, I found it interesting that your infidelity was mentioned.....
is this what pissed you off or the new baby?
Your kids are going to literally hate you when they grow up and learn all of this.......poor things....
 

Grace_Adler

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LMAO @ Janey and LMSP

Huskerfan, OR has jurisdiction. What city are you in?


Butterfree, we're the idiots? We're not the ones denying children contact with the father. We're not the ones failing to follow a court oder.

You wanted answers and you got them. You want anymore, ask him if you're so damned concerned about the kids.

I ask again..why did you not ask for a mutual evaluator from the beginning instead of objecting and having it continued? Didn't like the answer huh? That's why you're having it continued again. You didn't get your "satisfactory" report which to you, would be damaging to him. Sure let's break him. The second one (dr.) is twice as much as the first. (Not covered by insurance folks and was court ordered to see someone else..who is not seeing patients right now.) Oh yeah, didn't you take the kids and move out of state at one point?
 
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huskerfan41

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grace --

small town in southern oregon...

does he have an attorney?

when does he go to court?

i can do my best to get some of my father advocate friends here if needed -- let me know
 

JaneyS4

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I think someone ought to email bugaboo or rad and give them husker's email addy. And advocate group might be of help to rad and his boys. (I'd post on the private site but for some reason my puter won't let me post or read the messages on it!:( ) Grace, ryry, LMSP, don't one of you have bug's email?
 
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Whyte Noise

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Huskerfan, yes he does have an attorney. A hell of a good one who is tired of the BS games that butterfree and her attorney are trying to play with this. The jurisdiction is in Grant's Pass, and the court Date is December 10th. You can IM Rad's g/f by clicking on her name in one of her posts somewhere. Just do a search on the name "bugaboo".

You want the truth butterfree? Here ya go. Since ya think we're all mushrooms.... being kept in the dark and fed a bunch of sh*t.... But I doubt you'll even admit it's the truth once it jumps up and slaps you in the face.

Rad had the eval. done in June. Two seperate times he went for an hour each time. It was filed and completed in July. He COMPLIED with the court order to have the evaluation done ya dumbass. WHY wasn't it admitted at the court date in August? How about the fact of your attorney OBJECTING to it being admitted because it "Wasn't a mutually agreed upon evaluator" or "The doctor isn't here to testify"?? Remember that part? Or has your selective memory kicked in once again? Once again, he COMPLIED with the court order. He had the eval. done. It was never ORDERED that it had to be a "mutually agreed upon evaluator" that is just your stalling tactic. He was simply ordered to get the eval. done, at his own expense I might add, and he COMPLIED with it. It's not his fault if you and your attorney have your heads stuck so far up your respective asses that each time you burp you taste sh*t.

Your real objection to it being entered at the hearing was because it didn't say what YOU wanted it to say. The evaluator concluded that Rad was perfectly capapble of being around his children. Dunno if you have a copy of the eval. or not, but here's a little part from it that you might be interested in....

"OBSERVATIONS, CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS: Mr. Salts has clearly endured considerable emotional pain and trauma in being kept from having a relationship with his children. He expresses a desire to be cooperative and co-parent with the best interests of the children as the priority." "There seem to be no contraindications at this point in terms of Mr. Salts stability to provide care for his two boys, XXXX and XXXX. The optimal conditions for the two children would be for both parents to cooperate in providing for the needs of their children. Shared custody wherein both parents have equal custodial rights is the ideal situation for the children. However, when one or both parents undermine or sabotage the parenting process there is usually considerable psychological trauma experienced by the children making the ideal of equality more difficult." So, Miss butterfree.... looks like the evaluator put YOU in the hot seat, huh? Seeing as how you've taken every opportunity to "sabatoge" the boys relationship with rad and all....

Now, as to WHY he hasn't had that other one done... the one that you bitched and moaned about having to be a "mutually agreed upon evaluator"?? You gave him a name. He tried to make the appointment the day after the August court date. But, guess what?? That doctor has come up with all kinds of excuses to postpone the consult. First, he wasn't available until Novemebr to begin with because he was "making a movie". Come November when rad called to schedule, he was told the doc was still busy.... now editing said movie. It took rad's attorney finally calling the office only to be told the doc NOW won't be available until after the first of the year because of "family problems". Rad's attorney talked to your attorney to try and get another "mutually agreed upon evaluator" because of all the run around from this "doctor" but you refuse to let anyone do the eval but this one doc. Why is that? Is this the one that will be on your side, so you want ONLY this one to do it? What... you can't deal with the truth? You can't handle the fact that you have f*'d up royally, and your trying everything you know to keep your ass out of a sling? Your attorney is now wanting to continue again, based on the fact that Rad hasn't had the psych evaluation by this ONE particular doctor. Walk into the courtroom next week and say "We want a continuance based on the fact that the evaluator is "indisposed"?? And HAS been "indisposed" for about 4 months now?? Come on, any idiot can see what you're doing. Dragging this out as long as you can to hang on to the children because you KNOW once it all gets out, you're going to come out on the short end, dontcha? Have you told them Rad is dead again, like you did back in 2000? You are the most pathetic piece of crap I've ever had the displeasure of knowing about. You don't deserve the title of "mother".

We're all "brainwashed"? No dear.... we've just seen the actual court papers. We've seen the police reports, we've seen the DA's reports. We've seen it all. Rad has had PROOF of what he says, you have nothing but your typed words in an advice forum. We know how to read and comprehend what we read. Not sit there and blow smoke up people's asses to make ourselves look like the mother of the year when in reality the only catagory you can win in is the Joan Crawford psycho mom of the Century. You can sit there and say all the crap about Rad that you want, but when it comes down to it, the proof is in the pudding... or in this case, the scanner.
 

karma1

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MG.....

I just love it when you get pissed-you are so level headed and everything and would make a great lawyer!!!! IAAL---look out-lol
doesnt this all remind you of someone??????????
deja-psycho!!!
YOU GO GIRL!!!!
 

kidoday

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Hopefully little butterfree's judge will be able to see through all her manipulative games. Why ask for continuances unless you need more time to cover your ass?

Honestly Butterfree I hope the next 5.5 nights are sleepless ones for you dreading your day in court.

By the way your attorney objected to the evaluation in June and from what I understand ordered a different Dr. to be used. One that YOU chose. I am probably safe to say your attorney probably gets kickbacks from this Dr.. Probably something for raddad to check into as how often this attorney suggests this Dr. You would hate for your attorney to be investigated for collusion wouldn't you?
 

Whyte Noise

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Re: MG.....

lovingwife said:
I just love it when you get pissed-you are so level headed and everything and would make a great lawyer!!!! IAAL---look out-lol
doesnt this all remind you of someone??????????
deja-psycho!!!
YOU GO GIRL!!!!

This has been SO not a good last 5 days for me, and this really helped me get some of that anger out. People that lie, deceive, and manipulate others are NOT high on my list right now. Well, they might be high on one list in particular, but it's not the "good" one....
 

Grace_Adler

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ROTFLMAO!

Ok, I'm up now. Boy, was that good to me. Took the words right outta my mouth..again.

Glad to see you back though, was gettin ready to call or email ya to see if everything was ok.

Huskerfan and Janey, I was gonna respond but someone already had my back. :) Oh yeah, Janey, I think we have the same problem, I can't post on the site either. :(
 

karma1

Senior Member
Re: Re: MG.....

MissouriGal said:
This has been SO not a good last 5 days for me, and this really helped me get some of that anger out. People that lie, deceive, and manipulate others are NOT high on my list right now. Well, they might be high on one list in particular, but it's not the "good" one....
kay-are you like Santa or something? have that naughty and nice list going, do ya??
gotta laugh ya know, when someone makes a complete ass of themselves!!!
 

The It

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Thanks to all for a good laugh...

I appreciate you all for making me laugh. Simpletons are such fun...


BTW, two counselling sessions with a psychologist does not a psychiatric evaluation make...
 
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JaneyS4

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Re: ROTFLMAO!

Grace_Adler said:
Ok, I'm up now. Boy, was that good to me. Took the words right outta my mouth..again.

Glad to see you back though, was gettin ready to call or email ya to see if everything was ok.

Huskerfan and Janey, I was gonna respond but someone already had my back. :) Oh yeah, Janey, I think we have the same problem, I can't post on the site either. :(
Grace, I don't know what the problem is...I go to the site and I can see the first line of the message like your supposed to but when I click on one to read them all, I get a blank page. Likewise for when I try to post one. Same for you?

*Points up* Looks like someone let an annoying little fly in here. Anyone got a flyswatter?
 
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