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kimmieb86

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Happy Trails said:
You won't find anybody here that would encourage this type of behavior.

The child at the age of fourteen does not know what true love is. That is why your congressmen set up laws to protect children.

Something the parents failed to do. :rolleyes:

I agree Happy Trails, I certainly didn't encourage it. Although I didn't know what true love is until I was 40. Love is blind. But now that it's happened, what should I do. My son, doesn't want to wait 3 years, that was my thing. He wants to turn himself in.
 


Happy Trails

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kimmieb86 said:
I agree Happy Trails, I certainly didn't encourage it. Although I didn't know what true love is until I was 40. Love is blind. But now that it's happened, what should I do. My son, doesn't want to wait 3 years, that was my thing. He wants to turn himself in.
Then he should turn himself in and get an attorney.

Him waiting three years will not do anything for him. The crime has already been committed.

Info. added: There is no prosecution limitation for the offense of sexual assault if a written report is filed with law enforcement during the period of limitation, which is four years after the commission of the offense.
 
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Shay-Pari'e

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kimmieb86 said:
I agree Happy Trails, I certainly didn't encourage it. Although I didn't know what true love is until I was 40. Love is blind. But now that it's happened, what should I do. My son, doesn't want to wait 3 years, that was my thing. He wants to turn himself in.
Good! Tell him to turn himself in. You are failing to realize your son is a child molester and a rapist, and our streets are better off with him not on them.

Color it with GOD, or neon markers.............But that is the fact lady. You are a disgrace of a mother.

OH! And are you suggesting a girl that has started menstrating is old enough to have sex?
 

grasmicc

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I'm sorry to hear about this tough situation.

You should come to terms with the fact that your son is almost certainly going to be spending some time in prison. With some luck, he will be paroled in a few years. By the time he is paroled, she'll be 18, so that's a non-issue. This isn't the end of the world.

For now, get him a goddamn attorney and have him turn himself in.
 
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Happy Trails

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--PARIDISE-- said:
Good! Tell him to turn himself in. You are failing to realize your son is a child molester and a rapist, and our streets are better off with him not on them.

Color it with GOD, or neon markers.............But that is the fact lady. You are a disgrace of a mother.

OH! And are you suggesting a girl that has started menstrating is old enough to have sex?
I think she was suggesting that since she can have a child that she isn't one. :rolleyes:
 

grasmicc

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"His terms of parole will say to stay away from her. Duh!"

That's not so clear. Once she's 18 it might violate /HER/ constitutional rights to try to prevent her from associating with him by subjecting him to sanction.

More likely is that she'll have realized by then that he's a rapist and show up at the parole hearing to demand he not be released :).
 
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You Are Guilty

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grasmicc said:
"His terms of parole will say to stay away from her. Duh!"

That's not so clear. Once she's 18 it might violate /HER/ constitutional rights to try to prevent her from associating with him by subjecting him to sanction.

So all conditional parole violate "constitutional rights" if the person who the parolee is supposed to stay away from wants to see them? Uh, yeah. :rolleyes:

I can't believe Mary has let you go on this long. Your "advice" is going to get someone in trouble sooner or later.
 

grasmicc

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You should respond substantively.

"So all conditional parole violate "constitutional rights" if the person who the parolee is supposed to stay away from wants to see them? Uh, yeah. "

I never said that. I'm talking about this particular case. In this particular case, it would raise constitutional issues.

The interest of the person who is supposedly not to be contacted is a constitutional interest in freedom of association (in particular, intimate association (which is part of the "right to privacy" invented in Griswold v. Conn.)), and it is not easily overcome, particularly in light of the fact that they have done nothing wrong and are a law-abiding citizen. In this case, the state would have to demonstrate that keeping the convict away from the vitctim, even after she's turned 18, furthers some legitimate and compelling state interest. Traditionally no-contact orders are used to further one of three purposes, and, to my knowledge, have never been upheld under other circumstances:

(1) To prevent individual from fraternizing with others known or strongly suspected to have tendency towards criminal activity.

(2) For protection, with their consent/desire/lack of objection, of the adult who is not to be contacted.

(3) For protection of minors.

There's a ton of precedent on this if you are interested in actually discussing substantive issues.
 
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Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
grasmicc said:
I was banned for calling an idiot an idiot. now, like I said, can we talk substance or not at all?
I say not at all. I hold great trust in the fact that YAG, and Jetx will shut you down.
 

BelizeBreeze

Senior Member
grasmicc said:
There's a ton of precedent on this if you are interested in actually discussing substantive issues.
Substantive Issues?

Why have you evaded the question of the mother in this situation participating in a felony herself?

THAT is the substantive issue here.
 

kimmieb86

Junior Member
Thanks Happy Trails for being descent. Those of you that have nothing but discouragement and no legal advise to offer, please stay out of this post....Your opinion is negative and unimportant to me and it will be ignored.
 

Shay-Pari'e

Senior Member
kimmieb86 said:
Thanks Happy Trails for being descent. Those of you that have nothing but discouragement and no legal advise to offer, please stay out of this post....Your opinion is negative and unimportant to me and it will be ignored.
You are not listening. You have been told what to do, and what to expect. Obviously your son was not important enough for you to get him the help he desperately needed. You must have ignored that also.
 
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