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TinkerBelleLuvr

Senior Member
Since you are going pro per, YOU have to do the leg work. In light of the problems you have had in the past with changed paperwork, make sure that if the judge orders the attorney to type it, that you go over it with a fine tooth comb and leave with COPIES of the signed paperwork before you leave the office.
 


summerdawn

Senior Member
Since you are going pro per, YOU have to do the leg work. In light of the problems you have had in the past with changed paperwork, make sure that if the judge orders the attorney to type it, that you go over it with a fine tooth comb and leave with COPIES of the signed paperwork before you leave the office.
The judge can order HIS attorney to type it? :confused: The last time we went to court, the courts typed it all out and it was ready a week or two after the court date...
 

TinkerBelleLuvr

Senior Member
Then that's even better - in our courts, generally, if we are in front of a judge, it gets assigned to the person who has an attorney - otherwise, someone is volunteering. In the case of a referee, he or she types them up.
 

summerdawn

Senior Member
Then that's even better - in our courts, generally, if we are in front of a judge, it gets assigned to the person who has an attorney - otherwise, someone is volunteering. In the case of a referee, he or she types them up.
Oh-come to think of it, last time he didn't have an attorney, so I guess he very well may be the one to type it up this time. I'm so glad you posted that, I would have been in major shock if the judge ordered his attorney to type it up and I didn't realize it was standard procedure lol.
 

CourtClerk

Senior Member
Then that's even better - in our courts, generally, if we are in front of a judge, it gets assigned to the person who has an attorney - otherwise, someone is volunteering. In the case of a referee, he or she types them up.
I wish a judge would tell me to type someone's order....:rolleyes:
I would have to get disrespectful. That's NOT my job and I can't think of any county where a JA is required to type out an order. In fact, I'm almost SURE it's not allowed.
 

summerdawn

Senior Member
I wish a judge would tell me to type someone's order....:rolleyes:
I would have to get disrespectful. That's NOT my job and I can't think of any county where a JA is required to type out an order. In fact, I'm almost SURE it's not allowed.
What is a JA? Judges assistant? Our court order was provided by the court the first time. Neither of us had attorneys. A week or two after court we were able to pick up, at the courthouse, the paperwork stating what the judge ordered. Are you saying that the courts will not type them out, or that the attorneys would not be told to type them out? Now i'm confused.
 

TinkerBelleLuvr

Senior Member
If you X is represented by an attorney, most likely HE will be ordered to type up the orders. If it were me, I would be taking very good notes to see if what is typed is what was said.
 

CourtClerk

Senior Member
What is a JA? Judges assistant? Our court order was provided by the court the first time. Neither of us had attorneys. A week or two after court we were able to pick up, at the courthouse, the paperwork stating what the judge ordered. Are you saying that the courts will not type them out, or that the attorneys would not be told to type them out? Now i'm confused.
Tink is correct. If there is an attorney, then the attorney should be ordered to prepare the order. If both parties are pro per, then the prevailing party should be told to have the order prepared, by themselves or with the assistance by the Family Law Facilitator or the self help center...

At NO TIME should a Judicial Assistant (the judge's clerk) be wasting time typing orders for pro per litigants.
 

CourtClerk

Senior Member
CC - then if both parties were pro per the first time, why did someone in the court system type up their orders?
It may have been the Family Law Facilitator. They type orders... It may have been someone in Self Help (although last I checked, they wouldn't type it FOR you)...

but the judge's clerk? I don't think so...

I'm serious. If I were asked, I would have to print out my job description and stick it on her desk. In fact, let me go look at it now and make sure it hasn't changed...

ETA: Nope... not there.
 
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summerdawn

Senior Member
It may have been the Family Law Facilitator. They type orders... It may have been someone in Self Help (although last I checked, they wouldn't type it FOR you)...

but the judge's clerk? I don't think so...

I'm serious. If I were asked, I would have to print out my job description and stick it on her desk. In fact, let me go look at it now and make sure it hasn't changed...

ETA: Nope... not there.
I honestly don't know WHO did it, I just know it wasn't either of us, so I thought it was something the courts provided. This was at San Bernardino courthouse in 2008, our court has since changed to a place closer to our own house. We went to our court date and we were told we could pick up the orders in one to two weeks. There was also something I was able to get, I believe right afterwards-but don't quote me on that because it's been a few years, called "findings after court" or "orders after court" or something like that. It was like a paper that summarized the points the judge was ordering. The judge told me I could take that so that if dad and sm showed up with their own stip (that the judge didn't sign off on) and brought the police, trying to pick up the kids, i'd have an updated paper stating dad had reasonable supervised visitation. The judge we saw was very wary of dad's past and seemed worried that his legal parties might try to take advantage while we waited for a hearing in our new venue. The whole courtroom seemed to be shocked when he threw out the mediator's report and told me that I had sole legal and physical custody, and was in complete control of all visitation until the hearing at the new venue.

I honestly had no clue that someone's attorney would be asked to do it until it was typed in this thread. I'm really glad to find all of this out though. I would have thought it was really weird that the judge was asking his legal parties to do it if I hadn't seen this...
 

mistoffolees

Senior Member
If you X is represented by an attorney, most likely HE will be ordered to type up the orders. If it were me, I would be taking very good notes to see if what is typed is what was said.
Actually, I would pay for a transcription of the hearing. That way, if Dad tries to change something later, there's evidence to support OP's statements.
 

CourtClerk

Senior Member
Actually, I would pay for a transcription of the hearing. That way, if Dad tries to change something later, there's evidence to support OP's statements.
Yeah... have any idea of what THAT costs?????? If I remember correctly, the OP isn't exactly rolling in dough.
 

mistoffolees

Senior Member
Yeah... have any idea of what THAT costs?????? If I remember correctly, the OP isn't exactly rolling in dough.
How much has it cost her in all the years she's been messing around - lost child support, lost alimony (if any), lost time spent fooling around with the courts when she could be working, and, apparently, many hundreds of thousands of dollars in therapy to get over the whole mess?

Sometimes, pinching pennies is a foolish thing to do.
 

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