Who can press charges of statutory rape?

[AHA]

This happened Friday. On SATURDAY, I wrote that yesterday (Friday) all of this came down. Geez... look at the dates!

And yes, he has a lawyer. If you know anything at about a mother's love for her children, you'd understand why I spoke to, and wrote to, everyone I could. The boy is only 20, not 25, not 30. He has no money and is very gullible because he wants to believe in people. AND he has ADHD. We are a family that sticks together and helps one another, even though miles may separate us.

It's a shame you cannot understand that.

Now let this drop, okay? It's over. I'm leaving soon to pick him up, so go ahead and talk behind my back, like clucking hens, I don't care... this apparently is NOT a legal forum, it's a criticizing forum, and I will have nothing more to do with it. Enjoy your misery. At least you have each other.

Oh, I wasn't focusing on every date of every post because I have a troublefree life to live and so I don't spend every waking minute going over every detail outside the actual message. Excuse me.....................

 

[rmet4nzkx]

rmet,
I did not "announce" it when it happened, because I did not get online that day. Your calling me a liar, that is slander. I am only repeating what you posted, that is not slander and you have already been recognized as having an inconsistent story by others online here at this forum, changing your story is a lie. Really, you did not go online on Friday? Then how did you PM me 2 times on Friday and gave me an entirely different story. What you did do was tell me that you were trying to have ex parte communications with the judge trying to get the charges against your son reduced, I informed you that if this was a tentative ruling this was one thing otherwise the judge should recuse themselves for such activities since you were claiming the judge was communicating with all sorts of people and witnesses in this case before the trial scheduled for 10-25-4.

I did NOT say I spoke only to the clerk. I did not say that, you even quoted me, I said, "The only thing you have done is have communications with a clerk and a consult with an attorney you couldn't afford." that is all you had posted by that time I even quoted them online, again, you are the one who is lies.

I spoke to the clerk AFTER I spoke to that attorney. That is exactly what I quoted, so what do you think you are proving by falsely accusing me of misquoting you?

With the judge on my son's side, it doesn't matter who says what, only the judge's decision is what counts. So you are claiming that now you have been tampering with the judge prior to the trial and that he is biased, that is all that counts? Nothing you say makes any sense based on what you have told us, and judges don't make decisions on Saturdays a week before trial. There may have been communications with the DA, but if you are communicating with the judge, he should be removed, what county did this occur in?

Since the judge saw fit to drop the charges against my son, he DOES NOT have to register as a sex offender. It does not matter what the lawyer told me. It is not clear that the judge had dropped any charge, as judges don't drop charges, they are a trier of fact, I think you are confused and will not give you any help. Please stay out of your son's case, let his public defender represent him, otherwise you may end up in jail yourself.

I came here to ask a legal question, which I did. That question was answered, directly and to the point, by Carl. I gave you the references to the appropriate statutes, that was the answer to your legal questions.

Sorry that I got so wrapped up in the narrow-minded opinions of so many, especially you. The point I have been trying to make is that mitigating circumstances are enough for a decision other than what is "by the book."
No, You don't like having to deal with the reality that your son has committed a serious crime and you have some responsibility for it, you also don't like getting caught in your own lies.

This world is not black and white... is it mostly various shades of grey.
Actually there are many colors, but stalking children, having sex with them and not leaving them alone after discovering they are a child is still statutory rape. A statutory offense is black & white, that is why it is called, Statutory!

If my son had told the judge, "Yes, I did it. Yes, I went after a minor," then I would agree that he should be sentenced "by the book". That is not the definition of statutory rape and I already gave you those statutes in MY first response. But that was not the case here. So, he lied to the judge before the trial set for 10-25-4 and said he didn't have sex with a minor?

The judge believes my son is the innocent victim here, not the girl. Why can't you just show some intelligence and let it go? You have not demonstrated any intelligence. I never said that either the girl or your son are totally innocent, both have contributed to some degree, but your son, unless he is retarded and not mentally competent, has more responsibility than the girl no matter how much she lied. You seem to believe in situational ethics and it is ok for you and your son to commit crimes and to lie but it is not ok for others.

Maybe it's because you can't stand not having the last word, and that just shows your insecurities. How many times have you threatened that it would be your last post and then challenge me or other posters?

No matter what you say, and to whom, or in which post, you are already notorious for your eagerness to condemn. Really? Funny thing, I base what I post of what the poster gives and in some cases some research. I am notorious for catching people in lies and getting to the bottom of the issue or cause because they leave big clues and that is my job in the real world. Yes I have been a target by several Troll for that reason, they are gone. As I said before, If I was wrong, there are members here who would be all over this thread. Right now they are sitting back and laughing at your ignorance.

"Those who attempt to belittle the skills of others are simply jealous." Who said this? What does this have to do with anything?

I will no longer write TO you in answer to anything you say, because I have better things to do with my life than listen to your ravings. You are a sad, insecure, belittling, slandering and probably very lonely woman. Is that a threat or a promise? Who is the one ranting and raving? Who is the one in the sad position of having a pedofile for a son? Since when is raising a pedofile, something to be proud of?

I hope that someday you will find peace within yourself.

I am not the one who needs peace, you need to come to grips with the fact that you raised a pedofile for a son and he needs help, both of you need help!

 

[stealth2]

I'll just be back, supporting the people who came here just for that, support.

What support have you provided, sweetheart? I've read your posts, and I've yet to see anything really supportive.

 

[rmet4nzkx]

This happened Friday. On SATURDAY, I wrote that yesterday (Friday) all of this came down. Geez... look at the dates!

And yes, he has a lawyer. If you know anything at about a mother's love for her children, you'd understand why I spoke to, and wrote to, everyone I could. That doesn't make it right or legal and may adversely affect your son's case.

The boy is only 20, not 25, not 30. He has no money and is very gullible because he wants to believe in people. AND he has ADHD. We are a family that sticks together and helps one another, even though miles may separate us. I was very harsh in a previous comment trying to get to what I suspected, "your son, unless he is retarded and not mentally competent, has more responsibility than the girl no matter how much she lied." That was before you used your ADHD defense. It is important that you give the facts, this was important information to be withheld. Not that ADHD is an affirmative defense, but rather the fact that he was isolated socially, by history, not able to make age appropriate relationships with girls his own age and resorted to the internet and the Innocence and gullibility you now claim, together sound like a developmental disorder found in persons with normal to high intelligence called Asperger's disorder. Your son's story fits into that profile very well and might explain why he may have been assessed and charges dismissed, based on his disability and not on your inappropriate interference, also lack of appropriate behavior is typical of Asperger's as well. Many family's with this disorder are very closed systems, like yours. Please get your son assessed and into some form of a program where he can be taught appropriate behavior and independent living skills and employment otherwise this will not be his last experience with the criminal justice system. Goto http://www.faaas.org for more information.

It's a shame you cannot understand that.

Now let this drop, okay? It's over. I'm leaving soon to pick him up, so go ahead and talk behind my back, like clucking hens, I don't care... this apparently is NOT a legal forum, it's a criticizing forum, and I will have nothing more to do with it. Enjoy your misery. At least you have each other. You had legal questions they were answered, you now have information on where to get your son help, that is extra.

Please both you and your son get some help.

 

[OhBullship]

First off, I could start at the beginning, pick apart many retarded statements you make, but unlike many here, I have a life outside these boards. Not enough of a life to keep me away all the time, however.

I think I remember that you have a life outside of here, such a good life it is too! Have you ever been to Uranus?

 

[OhBullship]

Grow up kid.

You are the one who is suppose to teach us all about "good behavior" since the law abiding citizens know nothing about functioning in society. So show me, probation boy, exactly the way a responsible adult behaves.

 

[stealth2]

Hey kids - you know the pissing tree is out back, right?

 

[stealth2]

'Cause I often send the young whippersnappers out to it. Go on, now - get it out of your system.

 

[OhBullship]

Before any of those rules apply though, you have to follow some more basic ones:

Don't commit crimes, then piss and moan about your rights being violated.

When the officer says to take it off, take it off, you have no Fourth Amendment protection if you cannot follow rule #1.

Don't moronically think you can change people on a message board, especially on one where you have exposed your ah, exposure to the world.

 

[Besideherself]

This is really addictive, and I'm sorry I ever mentioned that I would stop writing. Messedwith, thank you. You can see what I am seeing in these people.

Thank you for your apology, rmet.

But before you go spouting off about "it's your job", and that you keep insinuating that you are in the legal field, you really should learn to spell legal terms... it's not pedofile, it's P-E-D-O-P-H-I-L-E.

I also sent the judge, the DA, and my son's lawyer the findings from the extensive testing done on my son by Kennedy Kreiger Institute at Johns Hopkins Hospital, which confirmed ADHD. He has been intolerant to all of the current medications so far. So you see, I have been trying to get him help. AND I have gone to support groups for parents of children with ADD and ADHD.

I only told you that you should not criticize if you did not have all the facts. There are too many of these "facts" to mention here. On that basis, criticism should not even be an issue.

All I wanted to know was who could press charges of statutory rape, since the girl's mother wanted to help. Then all this BS started, because none of you had all the facts, which I did not feel were necessary to answer my question, but you seemed to need to voice your opinion irregardless of that fact. All I wanted was an answer, which I got. Thank you. That's it. End of discussion.

Now I'll leave you to torture someone else. I'm going to get my son. I will ask an attorney from this point on if I ever have legal questions again. THEY don't criticize, they ask the right questions before rendering an opinion.

Messedwith, good luck!

 

[rmet4nzkx]

This is really addictive, and I'm sorry I ever mentioned that I would stop writing. Don't worry it was as predictable at the sun rising in the east.

Messedwith, thank you. You can see what I am seeing in these people. Unfortunately you don't see what we have had to deal with because you failed to give critical informaiton, you got the responses because you withheld information and the truth.

Thank you for your apology, rmet. It was less an appology than trying to get your attention, I did get your attention and was correct about your son being mentally challenged, that was the only reason anything you said could possibly have happened, but without the information re your son's mental challenges, the only conclusion was that you were lying, and you were and also by omission.

But before you go spouting off about "it's your job", and that you keep insinuating that you are in the legal field, you really should learn to spell legal terms... it's not pedofile, it's P-E-D-O-P-H-I-L-E. It can be spelled both ways I intentionally spelled it that way to see if you would respond as you did. If you had read any of my posts you would know that I am in the field of forensic neuroscience and some speciality in disorders such as Asperger's in adults.

I also sent the judge, the DA, and my son's lawyer the findings from the extensive testing done on my son by Kennedy Kreiger Institute at Johns Hopkins Hospital, which confirmed ADHD. KKI is a fine institute, however, a Dx may change over time, ADHD and Asperger's are frequently confused and getting a more definite Dx may help your son receive appropriate access to services. Please see the March or April 2003 issue of the CHADD journal for an excellent article on the confusion between the Dx of ADHD and Asperger's, please ask specifically for an assessment re Asperger's following your son's recent experience with the law as his history is more typical of Asperger's than ADHD including being intolerant of medications, which is classical for Asperger's not ADHD.
He has been intolerant to all of the current medications so far. So you see, I have been trying to get him help. AND I have gone to support groups for parents of children with ADD and ADHD. Getting help is difficult and dealing with Asperger's or any disability is difficult especially one that is not well understood, you are lucky to have come here for advice although you did not like what you heard, but the support groups for Asperger's may be more appropriate, please check out the site I gave you before http://www.faaas.org for more information and links. Please call KKI for reevaluation.

I only told you that you should not criticize if you did not have all the facts. There are too many of these "facts" to mention here. On that basis, criticism should not even be an issue. It was not criticism, you failed to give the most critical and necessary of all facts, because you are in denial or embarrassed. There was no other answer that could be given other than the statutes. Please remember, your son having a mental health or developmental disability is not a get out of jail free ticket either and there will be a next time because he cannot process certain information needed to make decisions.

All I wanted to know was who could press charges of statutory rape, since the girl's mother wanted to help. Then all this BS started, because none of you had all the facts, which I did not feel were necessary to answer my question, but you seemed to need to voice your opinion irregardless of that fact. You were wrong, we needed that information to answer your question because while you asked a question about who could charge you were really looking for a defense.
All I wanted was an answer, which I got. Thank you. That's it. End of discussion.

Now I'll leave you to torture someone else. NO one tortured you, you got the attention you wanted.

I'm going to get my son. I will ask an attorney from this point on if I ever have legal questions again. THEY don't criticize, they ask the right questions before rendering an opinion. You didn't answer the questions nor give the information needed, most attorneys would not even know about the forensic aspects of your son's disability and would have responded with the law and it's application just as we did with the information you gave.

Now get your son and make appointments to get him reevaluated and into some sort of supportive living arrangement.