Children's mother invites herself into home

[Rushia]

I didn't deliberately not get him fixed. My vet doesn't do it as early as some vets do, and this all happened in a very short amount of time. He had an appointment for it to be done when he ran away and was gone for a year. I had it done when I got him back.

In addition, I only knew about 2 of them, which happened in the same week, before he disappeared. I found out about the others later.

Was there a DNA test?

 

[LdiJ]

Was there a DNA test?

LOL...NO!

There were some pretty ticked off people however. A couple of them weren't mad at all because the females were labs and they had intended to breed them anyway. A couple weren't very mad because they realized they waited too long to get their females spayed. Three of them however were furious because they intended to breed their dogs, and their dogs were NOT labs.

My neighbor behind me thought the whole thing was hysterical. He watched me put my dog in the backyard and watched my dog sail over the fence. He then watched me chain my dog in the backyard and the dog slipped the chain and jumped the fence. Then he watched me harness the dog to a chain and he watched the dog slip the harness. I still can't believe how Mikey figured out how to slip the harness. After the neighbor tipped me off I harnessed him again and then watched through a window. The dog wrapped the chain around a tree and then wiggled out of the harness backwards...and I had it as tight as I thought I could without hurting him.

At one point I even put big hook locks on both the inside and the outside of my front door (the one where he could unlock the deadbolt and open the door) way up high where he couldn't reach them. However, after several times of someone being locked either in or out because one of the hooks was set, AND Mikey breaking through a screen to get out the window, I took down the hooks.

The final, crowning glory, (which made me realize that I just couldn't keep him) is when animal control gave me a ticket because he opened the door of a neighbor's car, stole the diaper bag out of the car (placed there by the neighbor who went back inside to get the baby) and took off down the street with it.

That was ticket number 5 and was when I finally gave up. It really bothered me to do so, because I am someone that believes that when you get a pet, you are responsible for that pet for the rest of the animal's life. Its a commitment. However, short of making him spend 20 hours a day in an outdoor kennel, with a padlock there was no way I was going to keep him from escaping while I was at work or during the night.

I even tried keeping him in a huge crate in the house, and he simply took the crate apart.

 

[CJane]

I even tried keeping him in a huge crate in the house, and he simply took the crate apart.

Ha! Sounds like my greyhound. The only thing that finally worked to keep HER in the yard was when we moved to the country and had 3 acres of our land fenced with underground fencing. And she never ever came in the house, after she nearly burned it down by trying to climb onto the gas stove to get out a window and chase something. She turned on a burner and the handle of my bacon press caught on fire.

The fixing thing is weird too. I remember, as a kid, that our vet wouldn't fix dogs unless they were a year old. He preferred to wait until 18 months.

In college, the vet I used would fix animals at 6 months, but preferred to wait til between 10 and 12 months.

And now, I know you can get them done crazy early. It'll be interesting to see what happens though. Most of my knowledge of animal growth and mental health is equine rather than canine, but there's pretty strong evidence that early castration can have a negative impact on both physical and social/emotional health and growth.

 

[stealth2]

That dog will try to jump on any other breathing animal including my fixed female. And he even tried it with my male dog (boy did Boomer set him straight). Anyway he's going to the vets asap after he has been bred once.

That's a dominance issue. Neutering him may or may not change it at this point.

I have a dog two streets over that goes in heat and the owners won't get her fixed and won't keep her pinned up. My dog is on an invisible fence but we don't have to put his collar on all the time since he usually stay in the yard now. Except when she goes in heat. That dog will come over here and he will either run off if his collar isn't on or will take the shock so we have to bump it up every time the dang dog goes in heat. I know he has bred her before. I came outside one day and they had just got done. The owner however won't do anything about it and I figure my dog is in my yard if she is bred in my yard its not my fault.

So your male is also not neutered?

Seriously, people. NEUTER YOUR DOGS!

 

[penelope10]

That's a dominance issue. Neutering him may or may not change it at this point.



So your male is also not neutered?

Seriously, people. NEUTER YOUR DOGS!

Both of my dogs were neutered at a very early age, never went into season, or into rut. I bought the female dog first, had her fixed as soon as she was old enough, and got the male two years later.The male was neutered as soon as he was old enough. I had him neutered because I never planed on breeding him and there were dominance fights between both dogs. My female is an Alpha and my male was exhibiting characteristics of becoming an Alpha.


Lol, I would say with my bf's dog it is more of a rutting issue than dominance. He is completely non-agressive. It is quite funny because the dog gets the silliest grin on his face when he's in the mood, his eyes bug out, and then he starts drooling. What's weird is that he prefers my female to others that he has been around that are in season.

How my female stopped him pestering her was basically to give it right back to him (without drawing graphic pictures) which was a sign of dominance. Scared the pooh out of the little guy. However, when he comes over it still doesn't stop him from trying to "check her out." And then it gets the one that is fixed excited and he tries to check to see if she is in season as well. (And yep, the vet did stay that a fixed male could still perform, however, the desire generally isn't there.)

Biology is a strange thing. I guess my old female (who is 8 and gray haired) is considered a Hot Mama out in the dog world.

 

[futuredust]

Right. And no misbehaved kids either - only bad parents.

Futuredust - what did you get him to chew on? Beauregard has gone through 4 "indestructible" rubber bones as big as my arm, 3 traffic cones and a bicycle tire. I'm running out of ideas, and my yard is covered with the shreds of his playing. So far, the only thing that has survived his playing is the basketball, but he can't really chew on it. He held a baseball in his mouth the other day, just squeezing until it popped.

And yeah, no one comes in the yard when he's outside. And he never barks. Just stops whatever he's doing and stares at people as they walk by.

Giant twisted ropes.

And a ton of being put in the corner for chewing the wrong stuff.

 

[CJane]

Giant twisted ropes.

And a ton of being put in the corner for chewing the wrong stuff.

The good thing is that he very rarely attempts to chew on the wrong stuff. Except for plastic soda/water bottles. He LOVES those. The issue is more the devouring the toys he does have.

He does the humping thing too, but that has slowed down dramatically in the past couple of weeks. When I adopted him, he'd only been neutered for about a week. It's been a month, and he's way less interested in that part of his life. But I'd be willing to bet there are a whole bunch of baby Beauregard's running around the part of the state I adopted him from since he was brought into the shelter as a stray.

 

[Rushia]

LOL...NO!

There were some pretty ticked off people however. A couple of them weren't mad at all because the females were labs and they had intended to breed them anyway. A couple weren't very mad because they realized they waited too long to get their females spayed. Three of them however were furious because they intended to breed their dogs, and their dogs were NOT labs.

My neighbor behind me thought the whole thing was hysterical. He watched me put my dog in the backyard and watched my dog sail over the fence. He then watched me chain my dog in the backyard and the dog slipped the chain and jumped the fence. Then he watched me harness the dog to a chain and he watched the dog slip the harness. I still can't believe how Mikey figured out how to slip the harness. After the neighbor tipped me off I harnessed him again and then watched through a window. The dog wrapped the chain around a tree and then wiggled out of the harness backwards...and I had it as tight as I thought I could without hurting him.

At one point I even put big hook locks on both the inside and the outside of my front door (the one where he could unlock the deadbolt and open the door) way up high where he couldn't reach them. However, after several times of someone being locked either in or out because one of the hooks was set, AND Mikey breaking through a screen to get out the window, I took down the hooks.

The final, crowning glory, (which made me realize that I just couldn't keep him) is when animal control gave me a ticket because he opened the door of a neighbor's car, stole the diaper bag out of the car (placed there by the neighbor who went back inside to get the baby) and took off down the street with it.

That was ticket number 5 and was when I finally gave up. It really bothered me to do so, because I am someone that believes that when you get a pet, you are responsible for that pet for the rest of the animal's life. Its a commitment. However, short of making him spend 20 hours a day in an outdoor kennel, with a padlock there was no way I was going to keep him from escaping while I was at work or during the night.

I even tried keeping him in a huge crate in the house, and he simply took the crate apart.

With no DNA test, no proof he is the father. Legal board and all! LOL!

 

[Proserpina]

With no DNA test, no proof he is the father. Legal board and all! LOL!

Now that was funny!

 

[futuredust]

The good thing is that he very rarely attempts to chew on the wrong stuff. Except for plastic soda/water bottles. He LOVES those. The issue is more the devouring the toys he does have.

He does the humping thing too, but that has slowed down dramatically in the past couple of weeks. When I adopted him, he'd only been neutered for about a week. It's been a month, and he's way less interested in that part of his life. But I'd be willing to bet there are a whole bunch of baby Beauregard's running around the part of the state I adopted him from since he was brought into the shelter as a stray.

Mine was a pound puppy too. He never did the humping thing, I took him to be cut about a month after bringing him home. I wanted him to adjust before doing something painful to him.

Our biggest problem was his love of cats, love to chase that is. He is terrified of cars because of this love of his. He jumped the fence one time chasing a cat.. he ran right into the street. Was hit by a city dump truck, bounced off of it into the other lane and was hit by a pt cruiser. We scooped him up and rushed him to the vet. He had a bruised rib and a little road rash, nothing more. Now he is terrified of cars/trucks and doesn't even go near the street, if there were a herd of cats sitting there, he wouldn't do it.

Mine has a problem with "leakage" in his sleep, for that reason he has his own bed and blankets. He sleeps on a futon. We have to wash it often because it smells of urine. I am not sure if this is a breed thing or just a Charlie thing. He also gets a horrible smell to him if he does not take the flea pills once a month. When he scratches his skin stinks, horribly. The only thing that has helped is the flea pills. Baths, collars, and all the other remedies for fleas don't work so well for him. The flea pills are very expensive but they do work.

 

[mistoffolees]

If Misto was ONLY referring to that with his "bad dog" comment, fine. I understood that he was referring to all of the other behavioral issues the dog was exhibiting.

Maybe you should try not jumping to unjustified conclusions.

I made that comment in response to LD letting her dog cause not just 1 or 2, but 7 pregnancies.

 

[stealth2]

Maybe you should try not jumping to unjustified conclusions.

I made that comment in response to LD letting her dog cause not just 1 or 2, but 7 pregnancies.

But misto... she didn't *know* about them. Somehow, I suspect that if her vet knew the dog could not be contained and was roaming the neighborhood, he may have revised his stance on not neutering sooner.

And yes, the owners of the females should ALSO have had their dogs spayed. But the fact that they didn't doesn't excuse not neutering the male. Who was obviously eager to spread his seed.

 

[Proserpina]

Who was obviously eager to spread his seed.

Aren't they all?

 

[Artemis_ofthe_Hunt]

Aren't they all?

Seems to apply in other places as well.... like, well... um.... here?

 

[stealth2]

LOL true.

If no one can tell... this is a HUGE pet peeve of mine. There are enough unwanted pups and kittens around. To be a pet owner (note, I do not say a breeder!*) and not neuter your animal as soon as possible - is nothing but irresponsible.

* and by breeder I do not mean someone who thinks their pet neeeeeeeds to have a litter or that their children neeeeeeeed to learn about the circle of life that way. I mean someone who is seriously working to improve and propagate the particular breed.