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8 yr old son sleeping in same bedroom as mother on visitation days

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2Mistakes

Senior Member
OP, I don't think you have any clue what mental illness(es) your wife may or may not have.

I can promise you that if she truly has bi-polar disorder, she is NOT on lexapro. You didn't mention any other meds. What is she on for mood stabilization? If she is on Lexapro, she does not have bipolar disorder. Period.
 


Proserpina

Senior Member
OP, I don't think you have any clue what mental illness(es) your wife may or may not have.

I can promise you that if she truly has bi-polar disorder, she is NOT on lexapro. You didn't mention any other meds. What is she on for mood stabilization? If she is on Lexapro, she does not have bipolar disorder. Period.
Unfortunately off-label use of Lexapro isn't uncommon.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
It seems to me that alot of the posts here contain thoughts that I am trying to be selfish, overbearing, controling, and dicredit or in other ways show that my soon to be is a bad parent.
Thing is, when you start with something that really is pretty innocuous and get shot down, then start adding in more "details", it starts to look like you're fishing for any possibility to cut the other parent out. We see that from a lot of posters, both Moms & Dads.

I asked only if a mother and a son sleeping in the same room was leagal or not. Also I mentioned that I was considering asking for temp physical.
Yes, well... it is legal.

When Dog asked on what grounds, I did not move on to or bring up those factors because I relized the sleeping arrangements was idiotic. It was the first reply. I simply answered the question.
See, and we kind of figure that a truly concerned parent will bring up the most concerning issue first. If your most pressing issue is the boy sharing a room with Mom? Then the other issues strike us as not so important to you.

I have had concern for the wellbeing of our child when he is in her care from the start. The last thing I wanted to do to a (then)7yr old is keep him from his mother. After multiple instances my concern has grown larger and larger.
But, if you are TRULY concerned for his safety, you'd so something regardless.

I would hope ANY parent would want to have the ability to change or moderate what they feel is negatively impacting thier child.
As stated above - every parent DOES have that ability - but one needs proof that a judge believes.

It looks like it is not illeagal for parents and thier opposite sex child to share a room. The relevence of the apt complexes were to show that most do not permit it, so it would seem to be wrong.
Suppose Mom had a 2BR apt. The boy could STILL share her room and no one would be the wiser. And it would still not be illegal. Just because the complexes don't want more than one person per BR doesn't make it illegal.

That doesn't change me thinking it would be more positive for our son to have his own room, bed and space for his clothes and toys, not cramming it all in her room.
Probably yes, at some point. But most kids make that type of move/request on their own. Your son is not likely to be 16 and sleeping on an air mattress in Mom's room.

As for proof of her letting our 8yr old (not 11/12) travel 4blocks (not our street and the adjoining; no further) to a city park, swim alone, and being off her meds is something I do not have.
I suppose I would have to be there with video camera in hand to prove it happened.
I feel this is Jeopardizing to our son.
And... this may well be considered a difference in parenting choices. There are parents who will not allow their children out of their sight long after the kids should be given that level of independence. There are others who let them go off much younger than many. 8? Is on the cusp. Most people would raise eyebrows at 6, few at 10. By 8, mine were allowed to be on their own in the neighborhood as long as I knew where they were going and who would be there, and that I was contacted before they went elsewhere.

See... I figure that I don't REALLY know where the sex offenders live. Because not all of them are registered. They have to be caught first. But... I refuse to allow my kids to grow up afraid and dependent. So I have taught them well and carefully, and allowed them to spread their wings appropriately. Doesn't mean I'm a bad parent, or that I don't care. Believe me - there have been many days when I waited for them with a knot in my stomach. But they've learned to take care of themselves, and they've learned that they are much more capable than others may let them believe.

Can I prove that she is purposely underemployed?
I do know coworkers of hers that have stated to me she was offered full time, and opted out for what ever reason.
Coworkers aren't proof.

It seems that the valid factor here is that she DOES have an erratic work schedule. Each week is different days off and scheduled hours. I have had the same days off for the past 2yrs, as well as a consistant shift 8-4p.
because of this her time with our son is sparce and incosistant, which should so a instability to care for him.
In these economic climes, I wouldn't count on a judge dinging her for working odd hours unless she is really never home for the boy and/or has no alternative care. Perhaps you could look into right of first refusal so that if she DOES work hours when she'd need a sitter, the boy would come to you instead. THAT would be a reasonable request.

Ya know... I have the same type of schedule. I work retail. I close anywhere from 1-3 nights a week. The other 2-4 I open. The days I work, the hours I work... can vary based on our coverage. When my kids were younger, either one of my parents would come to my house to stay with them until I got home, or they'd go to my parents' and then we'd usually spend the night with my taking them to school from there in the morning. Now, they're old enough to stay home on their own, doing homework, etc.

Unstable? I suppose some would see it as such. I don't. They see me every day. They talk to me every day. I know what goes on in their lives on a daily basis - who the mean girl is, who's the new cute guy at school, what the oldest's g/f is up to, etc. My "unstable" schedule has in no way impacted my parenting.

As a child from a broken home, my mom worked 2 jobs to provide for us as well as some of you mothers here in this thread. It's what she had to do. She always made sure when we lived somewhere (postage stamp or 1+ acre) my brother, sister and I had our own rooms. She would working most of the time an a sitter was looking after us. I can tell you it impacted the three of us negatively to have a sitter most of the time. we didn't understand why mom was always working and not playing with us. she didn't have the help of my father, he wanted nothing to do with us. If a woman in the 70's with three kids can provide seperate beds and rooms, I would think a clearhead woman in the 21st century can do the same. For what ever reasons I see it that she chooses not to with this for our child and that upsets me as a father who is very much dedicated to our sons' wellbeing.
Careful - you're looking at a return punt asking about why, if you think a woman in the 21st century should be able to provide a home with a bedroom for each of her children, a man in the 21st century shouldn't be able to do the same. Without relying on Mommy and Daddy. Think carefully before you lob that one in court.

Personally? I figured it made more sense for us to live in a home I owned free and clear, in a town I was familiar with, until I got my bearings and figured out what we were doing next. That little house brought us close and built relationships that are solid. Not only myself with each of the kids, but between the two of them together. And ya know... even with the space we have now? On weekends? We're a big pile-up in the FR on the weekends. And my kids are far from 8.

I would like to have primary custody of our son. I see that a court may or may not agree with me based on the discussion here. Obviously not being a lawyer, or medical professional I have seeked out advise. Thank you for all of yours :eek:
No one will ever be able to give you a definitive answer on what a court will decide. But you have holes in your case. Big ones. Wouldn't you rather find out now than when you're standing in front of the judge?
 

2Mistakes

Senior Member
Unfortunately off-label use of Lexapro isn't uncommon.
Lexapro is what got my wife diagnosed with bipolar disorder. She went on it for depression, and it sent her on a tailspin. You wouldn't believe the manic episode she went through, spending $16,000 in 1 month on clothes, which she hid from me.

Her doc told us that Lexapro is the biggest no-no drug when someone has bipolar.

And hello. How are you? It's been ages since I've posted here. I need to update my thread, as things have worked out with the ex, and we actually acted like adults, and came to an agreement. :) Hijacking over.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
Lexapro is what got my wife diagnosed with bipolar disorder. She went on it for depression, and it sent her on a tailspin. You wouldn't believe the manic episode she went through, spending $16,000 in 1 month on clothes, which she hid from me.

Her doc told us that Lexapro is the biggest no-no drug when someone has bipolar.

And hello. How are you? It's been ages since I've posted here. I need to update my thread, as things have worked out with the ex, and we actually acted like adults, and came to an agreement. :) Hijacking over.
(mini hijack alert)

Yes, it has. You need to post more :p
 

Hisbabygirl77

Senior Member
Each state has different standards I am sure I was speaking about where he may possible have gotten that information from like in CA

Each foster child must have his or own bed and may share a bedroom with only one other child. When sharing a bedroom, children over the age of five must be of the same gender.

That is from their Child and family services website. Whether this is the case in Nevada I am not sure. When I was responding to the poster who was NOT the OP this was the standard he was quoting since I do not know exactly what state forthecause is from I cant say for sure what his state requirements are. But yes some states I believe if I remember correctly but I could be wrong that florida also has that requirement as well.
 

Spiral

Junior Member
OP, I don't think you have any clue what mental illness(es) your wife may or may not have.

I can promise you that if she truly has bi-polar disorder, she is NOT on lexapro. You didn't mention any other meds. What is she on for mood stabilization? If she is on Lexapro, she does not have bipolar disorder. Period.
There is actually an extremely wide range of results from "mixing" Lexapro with bipolar disorder. Some with serious side effects as you've mentioned, but it's also been shown that it can be helpful both in combination with other drugs and also potentially by itself in certain cases of bipolar disorder.

Regardless, the response is still the same - there's no proof that this is occuring, and there's no proof that it is endangering the child.
 
Did YOU know that it is NOT always normal? That it CAN be an indication of several serious physical and psychiatric disorders?

YOU aren't a doctor or psychiatrist either - if you're going to point out that someone should check their facts you need to do the same thing.
Uppercut to the JIZZAW son.. I am not a psychiatrist, but I am almost done with a degree in counseling. I GUARANTEE that there is no curriculum that teaches that it is okay for kids to wet the bed into their teens.. Maybe your doc wet the bed too long and justifies it by enabling his patients.. dunno, but it is not normal..especially once the kid reaches adolescence to be sleeping in the same bed as mom..
 
Where in OP's situation has anyone mentioned stepparents? If you have a further question about your (wife's) situation, maybe you should add it to your own thread instead of using OP's for your own purposes.

Seriously... Mom is unlikely to be dinged for sharing a room (NOT a bed) with her son. Dad has made no mention of anything inappropriate occurring. And it's not illegal. At this age? My kids and I lived in a very small house, and we all shared the 1 BR. Along with a dog and two cats. That wasn't illegal, either. :rolleyes:
Maybe you should ...sniffle sniffle..
 

TheGeekess

Keeper of the Kraken
Uppercut to the JIZZAW son.. I am not a psychiatrist, but I am almost done with a degree in counseling.
Yeah, okay, whatever. I almost finished a degree in Psychology. I've got a BrainBench certification in Counseling Techniques. I worked (for the most part) on an adult acute psych unit for seven years. Your qualifications are no more impressive than mine. :rolleyes: Oh, and in my experience, those that study and/or work in Psychology/Counseling/Psychiatry are often in need of some kind of therapy themselves because that's the whole reason they go into that field.... they're trying to 'fix' themselves. :cool:

BUT: OP's boy IS NOT sleeping in the bed with his mother. HE IS SLEEPING ON AN AIR MATTRESS WHICH IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE.
 
Yeah, okay, whatever. I almost finished a degree in Psychology. I've got a BrainBench certification in Counseling Techniques. I worked (for the most part) on an adult acute psych unit for seven years. Your qualifications are no more impressive than mine. :rolleyes: Oh, and in my experience, those that study and/or work in Psychology/Counseling/Psychiatry are often in need of some kind of therapy themselves because that's the whole reason they go into that field.... they're trying to 'fix' themselves. :cool:

BUT: OP's boy IS NOT sleeping in the bed with his mother. HE IS SLEEPING ON AN AIR MATTRESS WHICH IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE.
Actually smartypants, it is part of a separate degree plan. Interesting none the less. I am not trying to be impressive. Maybe we should start encouraging people to sleep in the same bed as their kids until they are in their twenties.. Would we get along then?? You are correct.. The majority of individuals in the field of psychology need counseling themselves.. Weird hu...What we all need is Jesus..
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
Uppercut to the JIZZAW son.. I am not a psychiatrist, but I am almost done with a degree in counseling. I GUARANTEE that there is no curriculum that teaches that it is okay for kids to wet the bed into their teens.. Maybe your doc wet the bed too long and justifies it by enabling his patients.. dunno, but it is not normal..especially once the kid reaches adolescence to be sleeping in the same bed as mom..
Are you COMPLETELY incapable of reading and comprehension? WHERE did OP state that his child is sleeping in the same bed as his mother? WHERE did anyone - except for you - bring up bedwetting? Did OP say his kid is wetting his bed? Why no, he did not! So why do you keep harping on this subject?

Seriously - until you can read and comprehend what's written - go sit in a corner and keep your fingers busy. I'm sure you can figure out what to do with them.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
Uppercut to the JIZZAW son.. I am not a psychiatrist, but I am almost done with a degree in counseling. I GUARANTEE that there is no curriculum that teaches that it is okay for kids to wet the bed into their teens.. Maybe your doc wet the bed too long and justifies it by enabling his patients.. dunno, but it is not normal..especially once the kid reaches adolescence to be sleeping in the same bed as mom..
Why aren't you reading what has been written?
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
Uppercut to the JIZZAW son.. I am not a psychiatrist, but I am almost done with a degree in counseling. I GUARANTEE that there is no curriculum that teaches that it is okay for kids to wet the bed into their teens.. Maybe your doc wet the bed too long and justifies it by enabling his patients.. dunno, but it is not normal..especially once the kid reaches adolescence to be sleeping in the same bed as mom..
Uh...son? Not quite.

Listen kid. You have given an entirely new meaning to the word "delusional".

(you can look that up. It should be in at least one of your text books, k? K.)

(and you're still having issues with that reading comprehension, huh? Gotcha)
 

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