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--PARIDISE-- said:
Well, of course you can only answer posts about ant farms.

Still waiting for that legal authority to back up your insane comments on your other thread.

(Not holding my breath though)
This is my only thread here & you'll forgive me by saying, you are my problem. That is to say you and any member of the general public.

I'm not dumb and I know for a fact what this looks like. A lot of the evidence I have collected points in one direction, mine. :( This freak used my pc remotely and may even had access to my e-mail. So digitally it looks like I surfed to those sites and did these scams. The freak also had access to my full name, address, phone number, and made a point to tell everyone he/she was me and even supplied people with them. He/she then used my name, address, phone number, date of birth, and SSN to open a paypal account and maybe even other bank accounts in my name. In total he/she scammed any where between 5,000.00 - 10,000.00 from everyone who would buy from him/her and they range from the usa, canada, uk, and many other parts of the world.

Now suddenly I find an added 1270.00 in my bank account, that wasn't mine and was from the paypal account this freak made in my name. Which doesn't look good, as everything has already been done in my name & has my digital finger prints all over it. Even worst, because I didn't keep better track of my own account information & because this money made it's way into my account slowly and normally close or on my pay day... I ended up spending most of it.

Now to top this all off, I seem to be getting things either left on my back door (looks like from USP) and through the mail that I can't afford and never did order. Which doesn't make any since to me and I doubt it does to anyone else.

So today I'm scared & worried to death, that I'll be facing jail time for something I know I didn't do and most likely I'll be facing a room full of jury members, such as yourself who just will not take my word for it and will want some kind of proof that I didn't do this.

The only thing I hope will back any of this, is that Comcast kept better records that I have been submitting to them for over 1yr and that the other 4,000 - 9,000 isn't sitting in another bank account that I don't know about, with my name on it. :( :(
 


ENASNI

Senior Member
Yo INN/DAM

Shhh relax there or you are gonna have to change your name to innocent-damned and paranoid...
Paradise was aiming her post at Meganproser...

You, poor thing have been hanging out by the phone waiting for someone to call you back and haven't had time to browse this forum.

Megan...while being real sweet here (?) usually is giving some kind of advice to people that the law experts find questionable... its an on- going arguement... quite entertaining... so if you have some free time.. peruse the boards...

So relax...breathe.... and keep those ants alive and away from California..Ok?
 

muzzle

Junior Member
I just want to point one thing out.

If you're receiving said money from paypal.

There is only one way to do this. To authenticate your account. That requires paypal to debit you a small amount ( usualy a dollar at max) and you respond the correct amount. Proving you have the account and access.


You're not by chance refering to this thread are you?

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=270087
 
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muzzle said:
I just want to point one thing out.

If you're receiving said money from paypal.

There is only one way to do this. To authenticate your account. That requires paypal to debit you a small amount ( usualy a dollar at max) and you respond the correct amount. Proving you have the account and access.

I honestly think your lying. Too many things just stand out.
Again I am dealing with ID Theft. With ID Theft, a person can have access to everything you do. Think about all the things that make you who you are on paper (name, address, phone number, account number, credit cards, mothers last, ect...). What is there to stop you from doing anything to or with, yourself? The answer is nothing, because you have access to all these things and can prove you are who you are, with these things. With ID Theft, now so can the other person.

Through out the past year, I've used my pc to look for work on sites such as Monster.com. Think about all the personal info you put into just applying for a job (name, address, phone number, date of birth, SSN, education history, and past work history). Some places even ask you a few questions to get a personal profile of what kind of person you are.

The only thing I can do now, is to continue too seek out advice and ways I can slow down this freak from using my ID. The only true way to stop him/her would be to catch him/her or until he/she moves on.

As much as I do not want to look at it this way... This freak is another me, on paper. HE/she has access to everything I would have access too. The person has a good idea of what I know (my full name, address, SSN, bank account, phone number, date of birth, ect...).

A lot of people do not understand ID Theft and even I have a hard time coming to terms with what is going on. Try to think about waking up one morning with an evil twin or clone and everything he/she does affect you, as if you had done it. It's a living nightmare! :(
 

muzzle

Junior Member
Quite the contrary, I have dealt with id theft before with someone opening up a credit card with my name and info ( before i was even of age )

What i dont believe. Is you bought a domain ( you haven't supplied the name) and it happened to be related to illegal activities ( pirated software, cracks etc. ) and you didn't know this. You had funds show up and you were oblivious to this. Come on now. If you kept track of your balanace by the atm balance. The *1300* deposit would more than stand out. And i hardly believe it would be so called holiday pay. My guess is you're not telling all the info here in this story.
 
muzzle said:
Quite the contrary, I have dealt with id theft before with someone opening up a credit card with my name and info ( before i was even of age )

What i dont believe. Is you bought a domain ( you haven't supplied the name) and it happened to be related to illegal activities ( pirated software, cracks etc. ) and you didn't know this. You had funds show up and you were oblivious to this. Come on now. If you kept track of your balanace by the atm balance. The *1300* deposit would more than stand out. And i hardly believe it would be so called holiday pay. My guess is you're not telling all the info here in this story.
I didn't buy the domain. Someone gave it to me. When I got the domain, it nothing more then a blank page linked to no where. The person who gave it to me, said they would transfer it into my name and was kind enough to do so. I was young then and thought it would be cool to have a web site. The only reason why I latter found out about what it was used for, was people where asking me why the site change (from what it use to be) and there seemed to be online "groups" all upset with me (as they thought I was the original owner).

The full total that I've been able to track has been 1270.00 and I admit that I didn't keep a better track of my own bank balance. For that I am not only sorry, but I now have to pay back those fund (rightfully so). The money did not just end up in my account all at once, but it did end up coming in around about the same time I got paid. My pay checks where on average 900.00 - 1,200.00 every two week and that was not counting commission. During the holiday season it's easy to lose track of things and even more easy, when you are not keeping a better record, when you should.

My other concern now is about the letter I'm getting saying I applied for cell phones and credit card. Things I know I never did apply for, as I have no need for a credit card and can not afford one. And I'm also happy with my current cell phone and it's about the only thing I can afford at this time. I'm worried that this will only continue and I will be accountable for something else that this freak may do. :(

It's not easy and no way to live, always being scared of what the actions of someone else & how they may have an affect upon you. The people I have spoken to, tell me I have done all I can, but I still feel I should be doing more. What's worst is I want this over and past me, but I do not think it is going to be so easy... Anytime this freak gets up and decides they want something, all they have to do is say to themselves; "I feel like being "my name" today!"
 
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franko

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Innocent-Damned said:
A few years ago, when I was younger and knew so very little about using the Internet. Someone gave me a domain for free. I was young (17 - 18) and thought to myself, "Great I've got a free web site". Most young teens / young adults love the idea of getting something for nothing and I too was one of them. As it turned out though, the web site had been used for a program that gave out free serials and cracks for other programs (which is illegal). It turns out the previous owner may have upset a few people and continued to claim that the site was his... Even though it was mine & with my name, address in the "who is" info (which is public record). From time too time, I'd get threats and a bunch of script kiddies who would either try to hack my web site or e-mail me computer viruses. But I tried to pay no mind to it and deleted the e-mails and ignore things, as I know I had done no wrong.
This is where all of your credibility gets shot to hell. Your old website (musacaonline.com and .org) Was created on Feb. 2002. Since 2002 it has hosted that "illegal content" called Serials 2k(PROOF - http://web.archive.org/web/20020607184110/www.musacaonline.com/home.html).

The whois record of your site was created in 2002 and since you 23 (checked your bday in your profile). So that would make you 20 years old when the website was created and the only owner of Musaca Online.

I was one of the people who was scammed by "Adam" and truthfully I don't believe your story especially when you come out in your first post and LIE about certain facts.

Edit: OH one last thing I forgot to add. The total you are coming up with is WAYY off. I have gathered information on 33 people who were scammed totaling up to about 1600$ on the three different forums.
 
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franko said:
This is where all of your credibility gets shot to hell. Your old website (musacaonline.com and .org) Was created on Feb. 2002. Since 2002 it has hosted that "illegal content" called Serials 2k(PROOF - http://web.archive.org/web/20020607184110/www.musacaonline.com/home.html).

The whois record of your site was created in 2002 and since you 23 (checked your bday in your profile). So that would make you 20 years old when the website was created and the only owner of Musaca Online.

I was one of the people who was scammed by "Adam" and truthfully I don't believe your story especially when you come out in your first post and LIE about certain facts.

Edit: OH one last thing I forgot to add. The total you are coming up with is WAYY off. I have gathered information on 33 people who were scammed totaling up to about 1600$ on the three different forums.
Do you know despite the fact that someone is using my ID, I fear you and the other 33 people the most. Unlike the freak who has been going around using my personal information. It is the people who have fallen victim to because of this theft, that I fear more... Because after reading some of those comments on sites such as offtopic.com, I feel you are on more of a witch hunt, then you are for justice. :eek:

That site (musacaonline.com) was not bought by me & if you contact buydomains.com (where it was registered), you would know that. I did however renew the domain & I did buy musacaonline.org.

When I first learned someone was using my ID to hurt people and con them out of their money... My first instinct was to post on those sites and openly tell you, I'm a victim too. But as I can see here today, you seem more like someone who wants blood, then someone who wants to get too the bottom of this. Before you even knew for such who I was, you came out with the post above in full force and anger.

I'm sorry this has happen to you and I'm sorry that someone was able to get away with this. But I want you to know and remember that I am a victim of this, just as much as you are. :(
 

franko

Junior Member
You still give no explanation on your lies. I am out to catch the person who has done this and everything points to "adam". I am sure if "adam" did not do this then he will be cleared. You may not have been the person who originally bought the site but it was not registered until Feb. of 2002.

You claim it was given to you when you were 17 or 18 and the domain name was used in the past for hosting "illegal files". The first record that archive.org has for musacaonline.com is March of 2002 (which at the time you were 20 years of age) and it was clearly hosting the "illegal serials" program at that time and for quite a while after that.

All I know is that all the information I have gathered points to you and the explanation you have given for these issues sounds like BS to me. I know the truth will come out sooner or later and the reason why I haven't released any of your personal information (Address, Phone Number, etc.) to anyone but the police is because this may all be a mistake and I don't think it would be right for you to be harassed that way.


Innocent-Damned said:
Do you know despite the fact that someone is using my ID, I fear you and the other 33 people the most. Unlike the freak who has been going around using my personal information. It is the people who have fallen victim to because of this theft, that I fear more... Because after reading some of those comments on sites such as offtopic.com, I feel you are on more of a witch hunt, then you are for justice. :eek:

That site (musacaonline.com) was not bought by me & if you contact buydomains.com (where it was registered), you would know that. I did however renew the domain & I did buy musacaonline.org.

When I first learned someone was using my ID to hurt people and con them out of their money... My first instinct was to post on those sites and openly tell you, I'm a victim too. But as I can see here today, you seem more like someone who wants blood, then someone who wants to get too the bottom of this. Before you even knew for such who I was, you came out with the post above in full force and anger.

I'm sorry this has happen to you and I'm sorry that someone was able to get away with this. But I want you to know and remember that I am a victim of this, just as much as you are. :(
 
franko said:
You still give no explanation on your lies. I am out to catch the person who has done this and everything points to "adam". I am sure if "adam" did not do this then he will be cleared. You may not have been the person who originally bought the site but it was not registered until Feb. of 2002.

You claim it was given to you when you were 17 or 18 and the domain name was used in the past for hosting "illegal files". The first record that archive.org has for musacaonline.com is March of 2002 (which at the time you were 20 years of age) and it was clearly hosting the "illegal serials" program at that time and for quite a while after that.

All I know is that all the information I have gathered points to you and the explanation you have given for these issues sounds like BS to me. I know the truth will come out sooner or later and the reason why I haven't released any of your personal information (Address, Phone Number, etc.) to anyone but the police is because this may all be a mistake and I don't think it would be right for you to be harassed that way.

I guess I should comment on that last part first and if you do have my current name, address, and such... I do thank you for not releasing it.

Like you, I want to find the freak who did this and you'll forgive me if I do not address the person as a person. They are freak in my eyes! For someone to be stealing someone else's ID and committing theft in someone else's name, you are a freak! :mad: :( :mad:

I will admit that I may have the dates wrong, on when I did get those domains. But I did not use the site to host those files. As I said before, when I got the site it was nothing more then a blank site pointing to no place. It's not something I thought I would have to remember latter on. All I knew was I was getting a free domain. For how ever long I had it, I just used the 1 page buydomain.com gives you for free. Most of the time I used it as a blog and other times I used it just for fun. It's not something I gave much thought for, until now.

You'll forgive me in saying so, but I of all people know how much point in my direction. As I have said many times, this is a living nightmare! :(

From what you say here, you've totaled adding up to 1,600.00. In doing my search, I have found that this freak may have scammed anywhere between 5,000.00 or more out of people's hard earned income. Sadly I can confirm that 1,270.00 has indeed ended up in my account and I'm sorry that I did not notice this sooner. I have every intention to repay those funds, as they where indeed not mine. It is my own fault for not keeping a better record of my own bank account, but that does not mean I should be hung for what this person did to us all (you, me, and the many others).

Now let me help you if I can though. I did make a report with The FBI (105021517319069) and as well as with The Federal Trade Commission (5655996). I'm also trying to get the local police department into the matter, but quoting the detective I spoke with; ".... We really do not have a department for this. To be truthful, I spend my days here looking into gang shootings and drug dealings...." :(
 

muzzle

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I'm just going to be blunt here. It's amazing i ran across this thread as I was conned by you over a couple dvds i was purchasing.

Needless to say your time will come. We do have law enforcement working the case. We also have Others involved with the case due to it being fraud comited over the internet.

My suggestion. Enjoy it while you can because there are many of use and thanks to the hardwork of a few individuals we'll see justice in due time.

as for intention to repay those funds Why didn't you respond to the paypal emails regarding the account issues? You're fully aware of whats going on.
Further more the only way to receive the funds once again is to request a paypal accound deposit. For this *said person to remove the funds from your account* they'd have to have a lot of false identification to show at the bank to get ahold of them.

We're going to get our money back and if you're smart you'd start doing it now. The judge may be more lenient on you if you've paid off all the funds you could.

my suggestion. Stop lying. Pay back the money. And hope and pray that you dont get into a whole hell of a lot of trouble over this.
 
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I really wanted to do this so we could all help each other and so we could find who really did this to us all.

muzzle said:
I'm just going to be blunt here. It's amazing i ran across this thread as I was conned by you over a couple dvds i was purchasing.
First let me say, I'm sorry to hear you too where someone this freak scammed. I to was a victim of this scam, as it was my ID this freak was using.

Needless to say your time will come. We do have law enforcement working the case. We also have Others involved with the case due to it being fraud comited over the internet.
That's good & I too have been trying to get others into this, so I can find the creep who do this also. I have been living a living nightmare because of this. Do you have an idea what it is like, to know someone is pretending to be you and cause harm doing so? Do you have any idea the cost financially, emotionally, and physically is with something like this and the stress it causes?

My suggestion. Enjoy it while you can because there are many of use and thanks to the hardwork of a few individuals we'll see justice in due time.
So I should enjoy this? No thank you. I get it, you think it's me who did this. But I'm sorry to inform you, I'm not. It was my ID though and I'm already trying to track down the creep. If anything so I can defend myself in moments like this and lord know this is something that could continue.

You see, even if you finally do get your money back... If this freak isn't caught, two or three years from now you would have been able to continue your life, but I'll be back here with another group of people who think I did this. As long as this freak is out there, he/she can continue to use my ID and do more harm on me and others. :(

as for intention to repay those funds Why didn't you respond to the paypal emails regarding the account issues?
I never thought those "paypal" e-mail where real. As I said before, I thought they were scams. I knew for a fact, that I had never opened a new paypal account. I knew for a fact I wasn't selling anything or offering any services, so I thought they where scams.

I mean look around the internet. People talk about getting e-mail from banks, asking them to click a link within the e-mail to update their person info or check their account. And for what ever reason, so many people fall for this. The truth is, no bank in the world (that I know of) is going to send you an e-mail saying they want you to log online to fix or double check your account. If anything they would send you a letter in the mail or call you over the phone, both asking you to come in person.

So when I got those e-mails & thought they where scams, I did what you should do with such... Deleted!

Do I have plans to pay back what did end up in my account? Yes, that will be paid back (all 1270.00 of it).

You're fully aware of whats going on.
I wasn't aware of this going on, until last month (02/2005). You and others have been aware of this, way before I did and for that I am sorry.

Further more the only way to receive the funds once again is to request a paypal accound deposit. For this *said person to remove the funds from your account* they'd have to have a lot of false identification to show at the bank to get ahold of them.
That is why they call it ID Theft. Only the freak who did this, didn't make up the info, he/she used my real info to do so. As for the full 1,600 I have never seen it, never had it, and never will. I didn't take your money. From what I have seen though, is that this freak took at least 5,000 on many sites and of all that, only 1,270 ended up in my account. Of course that leave us both to the same question... Why? I don't know & I'm at a cross of wanting to know and not caring, as long as freak is taken down, as I do not want to repeat this & have to relive this in the future.

We're going to get our money back and if you're smart you'd start doing it now. The judge may be more lenient on you if you've paid off all the funds you could.
Again, as I've said before... I do not have your money. Never have, never will, and I don't want it. I wish you the best in getting it back though and if I can help you ever in the future... I would be glad too.

Judge? Do I think this will go to court? Sadly, yes. And I will tell him or her that my ID taken and I will tell everyone in the court room, that same thing I have told everyone else here and I will even pay back the 1270.00 that ended up in my account.

my suggestion. Stop lying. Pay back the money. And hope and pray that you dont get into a whole hell of a lot of trouble over this.
I'm not lying, but it is clear that some of you will not believe me no matter what I say and it is clear that some of you are upset and you have every right to be. It is also clear that some of you seem to be more on witch hunt then someone looking for justice.

Again, I will only pay that which did end up on my account. I do not know where the rest of the money ended up and I never did have it, use it, or want. It is after all, it's your money.

It would seem that I am already in a world of trouble because of this freak who has done this to us all. I'm already p*ssed off, just as you are and I'm also worried of how this freaks actions could further affect my life. :(

edit: forgive my grammar. I'm upset and care not to fix it.
 
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