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thechitowncubs

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Innocent-Damned said:
I really wanted to do this so we could all help each other and so we could find who really did this to us all.



First let me say, I'm sorry to hear you too where someone this freak scammed. I to was a victim of this scam, as it was my ID this freak was using.



That's good & I too have been trying to get others into this, so I can find the creep who do this also. I have been living a living nightmare because of this. Do you have an idea what it is like, to know someone is pretending to be you and cause harm doing so? Do you have any idea the cost financially, emotionally, and physically is with something like this and the stress it causes?



So I should enjoy this? No thank you. I get it, you think it's me who did this. But I'm sorry to inform you, I'm not. It was my ID though and I'm already trying to track down the creep. If anything so I can defend myself in moments like this and lord know this is something that could continue.

You see, even if you finally do get your money back... If this freak isn't caught, two or three years from now you would have been able to continue your life, but I'll be back here with another group of people who think I did this. As long as this freak is out there, he/she can continue to use my ID and do more harm on me and others. :(



I never thought those "paypal" e-mail where real. As I said before, I thought they were scams. I knew for a fact, that I had never opened a new paypal account. I knew for a fact I wasn't selling anything or offering any services, so I thought they where scams.

I mean look around the internet. People talk about getting e-mail from banks, asking them to click a link within the e-mail to update their person info or check their account. And for what ever reason, so many people fall for this. The truth is, no bank in the world (that I know of) is going to send you an e-mail saying they want you to log online to fix or double check your account. If anything they would send you a letter in the mail or call you over the phone, both asking you to come in person.

So when I got those e-mails & thought they where scams, I did what you should do with such... Deleted!

Do I have plans to pay back what did end up in my account? Yes, that will be paid back (all 1270.00 of it).



I wasn't aware of this going on, until last month (02/2005). You and others have been aware of this, way before I did and for that I am sorry.



That is why they call it ID Theft. Only the freak who did this, didn't make up the info, he/she used my real info to do so. As for the full 1,600 I have never seen it, never had it, and never will. I didn't take your money. From what I have seen though, is that this freak took at least 5,000 on many sites and of all that, only 1,270 ended up in my account. Of course that leave us both to the same question... Why? I don't know & I'm at a cross of wanting to know and not caring, as long as freak is taken down, as I do not want to repeat this & have to relive this in the future.



Again, as I've said before... I do not have your money. Never have, never will, and I don't want it. I wish you the best in getting it back though and if I can help you ever in the future... I would be glad too.

Judge? Do I think this will go to court? Sadly, yes. And I will tell him or her that my ID taken and I will tell everyone in the court room, that same thing I have told everyone else here and I will even pay back the 1270.00 that ended up in my account.



I'm not lying, but it is clear that some of you will not believe me no matter what I say and it is clear that some of you are upset and you have every right to be. It is also clear that some of you seem to be more on witch hunt then someone looking for justice.

Again, I will only pay that which did end up on my account. I do not know where the rest of the money ended up and I never did have it, use it, or want. It is after all, it's your money.

It would seem that I am already in a world of trouble because of this freak who has done this to us all. I'm already p*ssed off, just as you are and I'm also worried of how this freaks actions could further affect my life. :(

edit: forgive my grammar. I'm upset and care not to fix it.
As long as I get my money back and you or whomever gets prosecuted to the fullest extent. Do you have any idea of who could have done it? There has to be at least a smidge of evidence that you can share about this "freak".

Hope we catch this "freak". ;-|
 


jmattick

Junior Member
I totally doubt this entire ID theft scheme Adam is trying to pull, primarily, because it isn't the first time he's been caught in a lie.

http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=1520740&highlight=sir+adam+howard

Take the above link for example. I will not believe the fact that this was one of the accounts that was hacked, primarily, because if you go through said thread, and compare your responses (Atlantis) in it to the responses in this thread, they are very much one in the same.

Every person follows a certain way they structure their sentences and the way they use grammar. Now, I may not be a lawyer, or even a law major, but I am an english major and I understand the likeness of a person's writing.
 

jmattick

Junior Member
Innocent-Damned said:
This is my only thread here & you'll forgive me by saying, you are my problem. That is to say you and any member of the general public.

I'm not dumb and I know for a fact what this looks like. A lot of the evidence I have collected points in one direction, mine. :( This freak used my pc remotely and may even had access to my e-mail. So digitally it looks like I surfed to those sites and did these scams. The freak also had access to my full name, address, phone number, and made a point to tell everyone he/she was me and even supplied people with them. He/she then used my name, address, phone number, date of birth, and SSN to open a paypal account and maybe even other bank accounts in my name. In total he/she scammed any where between 5,000.00 - 10,000.00 from everyone who would buy from him/her and they range from the usa, canada, uk, and many other parts of the world.

Now suddenly I find an added 1270.00 in my bank account, that wasn't mine and was from the paypal account this freak made in my name. Which doesn't look good, as everything has already been done in my name & has my digital finger prints all over it. Even worst, because I didn't keep better track of my own account information & because this money made it's way into my account slowly and normally close or on my pay day... I ended up spending most of it.

Now to top this all off, I seem to be getting things either left on my back door (looks like from USP) and through the mail that I can't afford and never did order. Which doesn't make any since to me and I doubt it does to anyone else.

So today I'm scared & worried to death, that I'll be facing jail time for something I know I didn't do and most likely I'll be facing a room full of jury members, such as yourself who just will not take my word for it and will want some kind of proof that I didn't do this.

The only thing I hope will back any of this, is that Comcast kept better records that I have been submitting to them for over 1yr and that the other 4,000 - 9,000 isn't sitting in another bank account that I don't know about, with my name on it. :( :(
Here's something I don't understand Mr. Identity Theft.

Why would you still have the Paypal account open, if you were hacked/identity stolen? The first logical thing a person would do would be at first notice of the funds being moved would be to extract the remaining balance that is yours, contact Paypal, and close the account. Yet, you never did, and if you did, then once I saw the money being moved into my bank account, I'd call my bank and tell them that there had been an unauthorized deposit on the account and you'd like to freeze said funds. Hell, I would have closed the account.

But no, you did none of the above. You spent the money, thinking it was your very own.

So, if it does come down to it, and you do spend a day in front of the jury... Be sure to take all your "evidence" and tell them exactly what you said here. The judge and jury will be less likely to pity you.
 

Heather2

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jmattick said:
I totally doubt this entire ID theft scheme Adam is trying to pull, primarily, because it isn't the first time he's been caught in a lie.

http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=1520740&highlight=sir+adam+howard

Take the above link for example. I will not believe the fact that this was one of the accounts that was hacked, primarily, because if you go through said thread, and compare your responses (Atlantis) in it to the responses in this thread, they are very much one in the same.

Every person follows a certain way they structure their sentences and the way they use grammar. Now, I may not be a lawyer, or even a law major, but I am an english major and I understand the likeness of a person's writing.
I'm just nosey but what kinds of things has he lied about and how did you find out he joined this forum?
 

franko

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"Adam" sold items on three different forums to people taking paypal payments. The only problem is nobody ever recieved any of them.

tyson-bird said:
I'm just nosey but what kinds of things has he lied about and how did you find out he joined this forum?
 
jmattick said:
I totally doubt this entire ID theft scheme Adam is trying to pull, primarily, because it isn't the first time he's been caught in a lie.

http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=1520740&highlight=sir+adam+howard

Take the above link for example. I will not believe the fact that this was one of the accounts that was hacked, primarily, because if you go through said thread, and compare your responses (Atlantis) in it to the responses in this thread, they are very much one in the same.

Every person follows a certain way they structure their sentences and the way they use grammar. Now, I may not be a lawyer, or even a law major, but I am an english major and I understand the likeness of a person's writing.
I read some of the treads on offtopic.com and I find it had to believe that you find it hard to believe that I was a victim of ID Theft. Maybe because I find it hard to believe that this freak who scammed us all, posted on that forum and was so willingly to give out "his/hers" personal information. Do not find that a bit odd?

For give me for saying so, but you would have to be a fool to scam 100 + people and then turn around and give everyone your full name and where about you live. I would never scam people out of their hard earned income, but "if" I was really crazy enough to try (which I'm not), do you think I could have told everyone who I was and also give you a good detail on where I lived after and during scamming them?!?! :eek:

With respect, that person does not sound like me.
 
jmattick said:
Here's something I don't understand Mr. Identity Theft.

Why would you still have the Paypal account open, if you were hacked/identity stolen? The first logical thing a person would do would be at first notice of the funds being moved would be to extract the remaining balance that is yours, contact Paypal, and close the account. Yet, you never did, and if you did, then once I saw the money being moved into my bank account, I'd call my bank and tell them that there had been an unauthorized deposit on the account and you'd like to freeze said funds. Hell, I would have closed the account.

But no, you did none of the above. You spent the money, thinking it was your very own.

So, if it does come down to it, and you do spend a day in front of the jury... Be sure to take all your "evidence" and tell them exactly what you said here. The judge and jury will be less likely to pity you.

Again I did not have a paypal account & I would never open a paypal account! I did have an account a few years back & long since closed it. I was very dissatisfied. At the time, I even joined a site known as PaypalSucks.com and when there was that large class action law suet that took place & the public was able to collect funds from the case. You can bet your a** I dropped my name into the list of people who where also dissatisfied.

So I did not know I had a paypal account open in my name. The few e-mails I did get about paypal, I thought they where indeed scams. As I have pointed out. You here about them all the time. Suddenly you have an e-mail claiming to be from a bank, who wants you to up date your person information or to double check your balance. I do not know why so many people fall for these scams, but sadly enough they do. And by clicking the link within, they either end up with a virus or they are sent to a site that looks just like the real one and then they are dumb enough to try too log into these fake site, while these site collect everything you enter.

Now many people, including myself do get these e-mails and I do what everyone else should do and even what most ISP tell you to do. I deleted them. How was I to know they where in fact real?

Once it was clear to me that this was going on and someone had open an account in my name. I did call up paypal and was not able to confirm the account. Not surprisingly as I did not make this account & did not have all the details. It was only after my 2nd or 3rd try in contacting them, that I was able to get some details and was informed that the account had already been closed by The Paypal Fraud Department.
 
tyson-bird said:
I'm just nosey but what kinds of things has he lied about and how did you find out he joined this forum?
I would so love to know that too. I came here looking for help and free advice, but rather I feel like I'm in a court room full of people who only want blood. :(
 

Heather2

Member
franko said:
"Adam" sold items on three different forums to people taking paypal payments. The only problem is nobody ever recieved any of them.
How are you so sure that Adam did it and not the person he says stole his idenity? If he did do it, then sorry Adam but I do hope you're caught and pay. But if he didn't do it, franko wouldn't you feel awful if he is wrongly charged and this ruins his whole life? Just make sure that you aren't out for ANYONES blood guilty or innocent.
 

Heather2

Member
Innocent-Damned said:
I would so love to know that too. I came here looking for help and free advice, but rather I feel like I'm in a court room full of people who only want blood. :(
I don't know jack about the internet but how do you think they found you here?
 
tyson-bird said:
How are you so sure that Adam did it and not the person he says stole his idenity? If he did do it, then sorry Adam but I do hope you're caught and pay. But if he didn't do it, franko wouldn't you feel awful if he is wrongly charged and this ruins his whole life? Just make sure that you aren't out for ANYONES blood guilty or innocent.

I want to make it very clear, that I want to find the freak who did this just as much as they do. A very good part of my life is now on hold because of the actions of one sick individual. I had plans for my future and my very livelihood, that can not take place while this is still going on. The stress and fear that goes through me on an hourly basis, is unbelievable. I have a hard time sleeping because I'm scared that this freak is still out there, using my detailed life information and that latter I will be the one who maybe forced to pay for his/her mistakes and wrong doings.

While I understand there are a lot of upset people and who have every right to be so. While you may have lost 10.00 or 40.00. I have already lost my personal ID and a part of my life. I currently have some sick freak running around free, who is willingly telling people he/she is me and that they want to sell you and everyone else something, only to latter run off with your money and for people to expect me to pick up the mess. :( I WANT MY LIFE BACK!
 
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CaRenter

Junior Member
"The few e-mails I did get about paypal, I thought they where indeed scams. As I have pointed out. You here about them all the time. Suddenly you have an e-mail claiming to be from a bank, who wants you to up date your person information or to double check your balance. I do not know why so many people fall for these scams, but sadly enough they do. And by clicking the link within, they either end up with a virus or they are sent to a site that looks just like the real one and then they are dumb enough to try too log into these fake site, while these site collect everything you enter.

Now many people, including myself do get these e-mails and I do what everyone else should do and even what most ISP tell you to do. I deleted them. How was I to know they where in fact real?"


I agree with you, I get emails stating to be from Paypal almost daily, to the best of my knowledge, they are SPAM. I usually just delete them as well, just like Comcast and other ISPs tell you to. I would have never given a second thought that there might be a fake account in my name. Good luck to you, I hope it all works out.
 
CaRenter said:
"The few e-mails I did get about paypal, I thought they where indeed scams. As I have pointed out. You here about them all the time. Suddenly you have an e-mail claiming to be from a bank, who wants you to up date your person information or to double check your balance. I do not know why so many people fall for these scams, but sadly enough they do. And by clicking the link within, they either end up with a virus or they are sent to a site that looks just like the real one and then they are dumb enough to try too log into these fake site, while these site collect everything you enter.

Now many people, including myself do get these e-mails and I do what everyone else should do and even what most ISP tell you to do. I deleted them. How was I to know they where in fact real?"


I agree with you, I get emails stating to be from Paypal almost daily, to the best of my knowledge, they are SPAM. I usually just delete them as well, just like Comcast and other ISPs tell you to. I would have never given a second thought that there might be a fake account in my name. Good luck to you, I hope it all works out.
I do not know if you are being sarcastic or not. But if you are getting them almost "daily", I would contact paypal and double check if they have heard of you. The e-mails I got where once in a while.... I didn't get them daily (more like 1 or maybe 2 in a weeks time). The only reason I finally thought about looking into them, was because of the people who suddenly starting asking me, where their stuff was or for their money back (stuff I never sold and money I never had).

But there are scam e-mail going around asking people to log into their bank account and update their personal information. Sadly there are people who do not know any better and do fall for this. The truth is, no respectable bank would ever ask of such from you. If your bank did have a problem with something, they would ask you to come in person either by post mail or over then phone.

A lot of places (such as your ISP & bank) tell you that you should never click a link within these kinds of e-mails and you should either report them or delete them.
 
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meganproser

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All I know is this business about receiving ANTS via mail or UPS in Massachusetts during February and March, is bothering me (note my smooth avoidance of the obvious pun :D ).
 
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