Refuses to give cell phone numer

[TammyMay]

Hi! I live in FL.

I am wondering if it is time to contact an attorney. I am not sure what all information you need to be able to give sold advice, so I will do my best in describing things below.

My situation is this...

5 year old son visits his Father once a month for a weekend. The Father lives three states away and agreed to this visitation.

When our son is not visiting his Father, there is no contact at all. No one from the Father's family ever call to check on him, they have never been to a t-ball game or church musicals...etc. I have informed this all of place and time with weeks in advance each time - all to just be ignored.

The Father and I's relationship when we were together was horrible so I left for our son. The Father married two years ago, yet continues to not be able to be cordial with me in co-parenting.

His latest trick was sending me a pornographic text message picture, asking if it was me and saying he was just looking out for our son. As of that day, he had not called to talk to our son or check on him in 3 weeks.

I just ignored the text message. He continued to text me the next day explaining why he send it and then asked about our son. I answered the question about our son and ignored the other mess.


I let that issue go. Our son went to visit for Thanksgiving and when he got back I contacted his step-mom (whom I have only met once and never talked to on the phone) via email and asked her if she and I could make an agreement to communicate, rather than my son's Father because of the chain of events from him and his last text message to me...


She agreed.

My son will be going to visit them this Summer for 6 weeks. She has said that she will be picking him up from daycare and taking him each morning on her way to work. However, she refuses to give me her cell phone number. She has even sent me an email, sort of making the "rules" for communication with her.


We do have a Shared Parenting Plan agreement that states that all phone numbers and contacts should be provided for anyone caring for the child. (I can give you exactly what it says, if needed)


What should I do about this?

There are other details to this story but I do not want to type a novel.

 

[stealth2]

Do you have contact info for Dad? For the daycare? Why do you need stepMom's cell #?

 

[wavehopper27]

She is a legal stranger as far as your child is concerned. She is not a party to your parenting plan and is not obligated to give you her cell number.

If you feel dad is violating the parenting plan, you can file for contempt.

 

[Just Blue]

Hi! I live in FL.

I am wondering if it is time to contact an attorney. I am not sure what all information you need to be able to give sold advice, so I will do my best in describing things below.

My situation is this...

5 year old son visits his Father once a month for a weekend. The Father lives three states away and agreed to this visitation.

When our son is not visiting his Father, there is no contact at all. No one from the Father's family ever call to check on him, they have never been to a t-ball game or church musicals...etc. I have informed this all of place and time with weeks in advance each time - all to just be ignored.

The Father and I's relationship when we were together was horrible so I left for our son. The Father married two years ago, yet continues to not be able to be cordial with me in co-parenting.

His latest trick was sending me a pornographic text message picture, asking if it was me and saying he was just looking out for our son. As of that day, he had not called to talk to our son or check on him in 3 weeks.

I just ignored the text message. He continued to text me the next day explaining why he send it and then asked about our son. I answered the question about our son and ignored the other mess.


I let that issue go. Our son went to visit for Thanksgiving and when he got back I contacted his step-mom (whom I have only met once and never talked to on the phone) via email and asked her if she and I could make an agreement to communicate, rather than my son's Father because of the chain of events from him and his last text message to me...


She agreed.

My son will be going to visit them this Summer for 6 weeks. She has said that she will be picking him up from daycare and taking him each morning on her way to work. However, she refuses to give me her cell phone number. She has even sent me an email, sort of making the "rules" for communication with her.


We do have a Shared Parenting Plan agreement that states that all phone numbers and contacts should be provided for anyone caring for the child. (I can give you exactly what it says, if needed)


What should I do about this?

There are other details to this story but I do not want to type a novel.

Yes...The part of PP regarding phone # and contacts would be helpful.

 

[TammyMay]

Do you have contact info for Dad? For the daycare? Why do you need stepMom's cell #?

Yes I have contact for Dad. No, I do not have contact for the daycare. I need her number because she will be traveling back and forth from daycare with our child each day. And Dad refuses to answer me when he has our child.

 

[Proserpina]

Yes I have contact for Dad. No, I do not have contact for the daycare. I need her number because she will be traveling back and forth from daycare with our child each day. And Dad refuses to answer me when he has our child.

Tammy, why do you need that contact?

Is Dad allowed to have undisturbed contact?

Am I missing where this is a big deal?

 

[TammyMay]

I just feel like contacts and communication concerning the whereabouts of a child should be translucent. I just need to go talk to an attorney. The Father always has any and all contact info when our child is in my care.

What if our child is gone all day with the stepmom....am I not allowed to contact her then? That's my concern. I do not understand why the phone number is a secret. Especially since she and I have agreed to just communicate and not the Father.

 

[TammyMay]

We have any order that says daily contact is allowed. By phone or Skype.

 

[Proserpina]

We have any order that says daily contact is allowed. By phone or Skype.

If that's what your order says, Dad is doing nothing wrong.

"daily contact is allowed" does not mean "child shall be made available between 6pm and 8pm on X day".

 

[TammyMay]

If that's what your order says, Dad is doing nothing wrong.

"daily contact is allowed" does not mean "child shall be made available between 6pm and 8pm on X day".

This is exactly what our order says...

"All parents shall keep contact information current and each shall notify the other in writing of any changes. Each parent shall maintain a working telephone.

Each parent shall have the right to contact the child(ren) by telephone at the residence, or location of the other parent with reasonable frequency, during reasonable hours. Unless an emergency arises, "reasonable frequency is defined as once per day. "Reasonable hours" is defined as 8:00 am through 8:00 pm. "Reasonable frequency" is defined as one-half(1/2) hour per call. Each parent has a duty to promptly return telephone calls place by the other and to see the the child due the same. The child(ren) shall be allowed to initiate telephone calls, during any period of parenting time."

 

[Proserpina]

I just feel like contacts and communication concerning the whereabouts of a child should be translucent. I just need to go talk to an attorney. The Father always has any and all contact info when our child is in my care.

What if our child is gone all day with the stepmom....am I not allowed to contact her then? That's my concern. I do not understand why the phone number is a secret. Especially since she and I have agreed to just communicate and not the Father.

I'm still wondering why this is a huge issue.

Sorry. Just not getting it.

 

[Proserpina]

This is exactly what our order says...

"All parents shall keep contact information current and each shall notify the other in writing of any changes. Each parent shall maintain a working telephone.

Each parent shall have the right to contact the child(ren) by telephone at the residence, or location of the other parent with reasonable frequency, during reasonable hours. Unless an emergency arises, "reasonable frequency is defined as once per day. "Reasonable hours" is defined as 8:00 am through 8:00 pm. "Reasonable frequency" is defined as one-half(1/2) hour per call. Each parent has a duty to promptly return telephone calls place by the other and to see the the child due the same. The child(ren) shall be allowed to initiate telephone calls, during any period of parenting time."

Right then. Take Dad back to court. That's your option.

 

[TammyMay]

It also says under our new SKYPE?FACETIME/PHONE

"each parent is entitled to Skype/Facetime/Phone with the child on a daily basis. Both parents shall ensure they have the necessary equipment to effectuate this provision and make the child available from 7:30 PM - 8:00 PM . Each parent is entitled to Skype with the child no less that 3 times a week."


This just confuses me even more so...

Does this mean that I am only entitled to talk to our child from 730-8 each not or from 8-8?

 

[I'mTheFather]

So, call or text dad when you want to speak to junior, or email stepmom to let her know. If they never return your calls/emails/texts with a call from junior, then you have something to act on. Until then, there really is no problem. You are not entitled to know stepmom's phone number if she doesn't wish to give it to you.

I also think she was wise to come up with a set of rules for communication between the two of you.

 

[TammyMay]

How is she wise to do this when she has no legal standing regarding us?


Should I go through the court to make her an official 3rd party?