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TammyMay

Member
The Father has one weekend an month, if he decides to utilize it.

Alternate Holidays and six weeks during the Summer.

He lives 3 states away. When I have the child he has NO contact with the child. Has gone two mos with no contact.


I want to be able to tell my child I love them and be able to hear his voice. We are not promised tomorrow.

And for the main reason...I love my child and I actually miss him when he is gone.
 
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not2cleverRed

Obvious Observer
What would be the purpose of that? If all am wanting to do is have my one daily phone call with my child?
Right... You know, roughly, what the kid's schedule is. So you're going to call exactly when they're in transit? Maybe she doesn't want to give you the # because you have a history of doing exactly that.

What if step mom didn't have a cell phone? What if she turns the cell phone off, or the battery goes dead?

Seriously, let the apron strings loosen a little. You are being unreasonable.
 

TammyMay

Member
Right... You know, roughly, what the kid's schedule is. So you're going to call exactly when they're in transit? Maybe she doesn't want to give you the # because you have a history of doing exactly that.

What if step mom didn't have a cell phone? What if she turns the cell phone off, or the battery goes dead?

Seriously, let the apron strings loosen a little. You are being unreasonable.


Point taken.
 

TammyMay

Member
One last question.

Should I do anything legally about the way the Father communicates with me? Cursing, pornographic pictures, name calling, blaming...etc.? I have saved everything.


The whole reason I have reached out to the Step-Mom.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
One last question.

Should I do anything legally about the way the Father communicates with me? Cursing, pornographic pictures, name calling, blaming...etc.? I have saved everything.


The whole reason I have reached out to the Step-Mom.

Yeah, the porn and the abusive tones are NOT cool.

I admittedly only glanced at the rest of the thread, but would you consider Family Wizard as a means to communicate?
 

TammyMay

Member
Yeah, the porn and the abusive tones are NOT cool.

I admittedly only glanced at the rest of the thread, but would you consider Family Wizard as a means to communicate?
Do you happen to know if FL uses that program? Would a judge have to order it or would both parties have to agree? He will not agree to anything I suggest.
 

TammyMay

Member
Do you happen to know if FL uses that program? Would a judge have to order it or would both parties have to agree? He will not agree to anything I suggest.
I am willing to use anything that can help us communicate. I would rather confer with my child's legal Father, rather than have to go through someone I do not even know.
 

Proserpina

Senior Member
I am willing to use anything that can help us communicate. I would rather confer with my child's legal Father, rather than have to go through someone I do not even know.

Tammy, it can really help parents who have a difficult time communicating. From memory it's about $99/person/year, and as far as I know Florida will order it if the judge feels it's necessary or will help reduce the madness.
 

cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
Tammy, may I say something here?

I truly do not mean this to be mean or unkind. It's just something for you to think about as you go forward.

This whole thread seems to be about what YOU want and how YOU can control everything to do with your child. You want to be able to contact him every minute and it bothers you if there's even a small period of time when you can't have instant access.You want to force Step Mom to give you her cell number, even though there's really no valid reason for you to have it. You want to have direct contact with Dad no matter how badly he's spoken to you. This isn't about what's going to make things better for the child or how to facilitate communications - this is about Tammy being able to control those communications so that they happen when and how she wants and to heck with anyone else's time or convenience or privacy rights - or even how much easier it would make things for you. Family Wizard would prevent the nasty tone or the pornographic texts - but you don't want to do that because YOU want direct contact at all times. Even the contact is because YOU want to talk to your child and not because the child needs daily contact with you.

Hon, that's not healthy for you and it's not healthy for your child. You really need to accept that not everything is within your control - and that sometimes the best thing is for you to cede some of that control to others.
 

TammyMay

Member
Tammy, it can really help parents who have a difficult time communicating. From memory it's about $99/person/year, and as far as I know Florida will order it if the judge feels it's necessary or will help reduce the madness.
Thank you. I will bring this up to the attorney tomorrow. Really, thank you so much for your insight!
 

TammyMay

Member
Tammy, may I say something here?

I truly do not mean this to be mean or unkind. It's just something for you to think about as you go forward.

This whole thread seems to be about what YOU want and how YOU can control everything to do with your child. You want to be able to contact him every minute and it bothers you if there's even a small period of time when you can't have instant access.You want to force Step Mom to give you her cell number, even though there's really no valid reason for you to have it. You want to have direct contact with Dad no matter how badly he's spoken to you. This isn't about what's going to make things better for the child or how to facilitate communications - this is about Tammy being able to control those communications so that they happen when and how she wants and to heck with anyone else's time or convenience or privacy rights - or even how much easier it would make things for you. Family Wizard would prevent the nasty tone or the pornographic texts - but you don't want to do that because YOU want direct contact at all times. Even the contact is because YOU want to talk to your child and not because the child needs daily contact with you.

Hon, that's not healthy for you and it's not healthy for your child. You really need to accept that not everything is within your control - and that sometimes the best thing is for you to cede some of that control to others.
Thank you for your opinion and insight. I am going to offer Family Wizard tomorrow with an attorney. It is not about control. I would love for everything to be documented in that form. Tonight is the first I have checked the program out. I think that it is wonderful! I just hope that all of precious sexual comments, sexual texts and verbal abusive text will direct a judge to enforce that we use it. If not I will continue to document and go forward from there.

I honestly can not even read through your comment because it is way off of line from the first two sentences. Thank you for trying though.
 

stealth2

Under the Radar Member
This means that I do not have a right to contact the child at any moment the child is not with me?

All parents shall keep contact information current and each shall notify the other in writing of any changes. Each parent shall maintain a working telephone.

Each parent shall have the right to contact the child(ren) by telephone at the residence, or location of the other parent with reasonable frequency, during reasonable hours. Unless an emergency arises, "reasonable frequency is defined as once per day. "Reasonable hours" is defined as 8:00 am through 8:00 pm. "Reasonable frequency" is defined as one-half(1/2) hour per call. Each parent has a duty to promptly return telephone calls place by the other and to see the the child due the same. The child(ren) shall be allowed to initiate telephone calls, during any period of parenting time."
Except.... StepMom is NOT Sparky's parent and is not obligated to provide you her private number. Really.
 

cbg

I'm a Northern Girl
I'm sorry you feel that way. Maybe at some point in future you'll be able to accept exactly how you are coming across to an uninvolved third party who has no axe to grind and whose dog is not in the hunt.
 

TammyMay

Member
I'm sorry you feel that way. Maybe at some point in future you'll be able to accept exactly how you are coming across to an uninvolved third party who has no axe to grind and whose dog is not in the hunt.
I completely understand now. Honestly, thank you. This site has helped me understand that. She legally has no stand in this case, therefore, she has not obligation to give me her number. That is why I should do what I can to get Family Wizard enforced between the Father and I.

I would live that. It seems very fair and that is what I want. Both sides equal and everything is documented. I didn't even know about that program until today. So I am appreciative. I would like for the Father to communicate with me via that program.

And yes, I do want to communicate solely with the legal Father. He is whom I created this wonderful child with. I do not know the Step-Mom she has been in our child's life for a very short time. I would rather work on the communication between my child and the man who I created him with, rather than a "legal stranger".
 

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