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In Asperger's:
VIQ is going to be normal to high/superior, telling me that is or PIQ high or that he scores high on verbal and math standardized tests is not unusal, there are specific deficits, which may in fact seem insignificant to you. I specifically asked how many points separate VIQ and PIQ? When were the tests taken? I didn't ask for FSIQ.
Highly verbal, this can be any combination of speech, written and or reading. Young children with AS are often seen as little professors because their speech is advanced as is their ability to memorize. So what you don't consider an oddity of speech is in fact a red flag. Has a speech pathologist evaluated your child? Over time with trial and error and tolerance of others they often settle into the normal range although somewhere near the fringes of normalcy.
Inattention and impulsiveness more so than hyperactivity as the child matures are hallmarks for AS, for slightly different reasons than ADHD, far too complex to expound upon here. These combined with high intelligence confuse everyone because while the child is clearly capable intellectually of appropriate behavior yet choose to act otherwise and fall back on defenses.
Insofar as the article, 15 years ago Asperger's Syndrome was not a part of the DSM-III-R, therefore is a child with Asperger's was diagnosed it was with ADD/ADHD, PDD, OCD, ODD, CD, ANXIETY, MOOD/BIPOLAR, PSYCHOSIS, PERSONALITY DISORDERS! ADD/ADHD being the Dx de jour for high functioning and or "gifted". Here is an article addrssing that from the ADHD perspecitve please remember the age of the child will be a factor. http://www.addresources.org/article_gifted_lovecky.php
Here is a link to CHADD there was an excellent article in their March-May ? 2003 issue if you subscribe. http://www.help4adhd.org/treatment/co-existing
http://www.chadd.org/fs/fs5.htm
http://www.addresources.org/enews_feb_2005.php
New Books related to ADHD
Different Minds: Gifted Children With AD/HD, Asperger Syndrome, and other Learning Deficits is written by Deirdre V. Lovecky and sells for $25. Recognizing the different levels and kinds of giftedness, this book provides an insight into the challenges and benefits specific to gifted children with attention difficulties. Explaining why certain children are gifted and how giftedness is manifested, each chapter on a specific topic addresses the relevance for children with AD/HD, autism and Asperger Syndrome. Lovecky guides parents and professionals through methods of diagnosis and advises on how best to nurture individual needs, positive behavior and relationships at home and at school.
Misdiagnosis And Dual Diagnoses Of Gifted Children And Adults: ADHD, Bipolar, OCD, Asperger's, Depression, And Other Disorders by James T., Ph.D. Webb, Edward R. Amend, Nadia E. Webb, Edward R. Amend Psy.D, Nadia E. Webb Psy. D, Jean Goerss M.D., Paul Beljan Psy.D, and F. Richard Olenchak PhD.
Our brightest, most creative children and adults are often being misdiagnosed with behavioral and emotional disorders such as ADHD, Oppositional-Defiant Disorder, Bipolar, OCD, or Asperger’s. Many receive unneeded medication and inappropriate counseling as a result. Physicians, psychologists, and counselors often are unaware of characteristics of gifted children and adults that mimic pathological diagnoses. Six nationally prominent health care professionals describe ways parents and professionals can distinguish between gifted behaviors and pathological behaviors.
Genius! Nurturing the Spirit of the Wild, Odd, and Oppositional Child* *Tourette Syndrome, Bipolar Disorder, AD/HD, and Asperger Syndrome by George Lynn, M.A., M.P.A., L.M.H.C. Genius! moves past survival strategies to give parents of children diagnosed with Tourette Syndrome, bipolar disorder, AD/HD, and Asperger Syndrome a practical plan for bringing out the best qualities in their kids while taking care of themselves in the process. It is based on the premise that the genius of neurologically different children is necessary for the survival of humankind. Through historical analysis, modern brain research, and the wisdom of myth, George T. Lynn shows us how the disturbing and wildly creative character of these children is required if we are to avoid stagnation as a species.
Even if your child doesn't have Asperger's, exploring this possibility may give you and his providers some insight as to how he might be helped
I'm glad you have finally decided to ask his current provider to consider this possibility.
In Asperger's:
VIQ is going to be normal to high/superior, telling me that is or PIQ high or that he scores high on verbal and math standardized tests is not unusal, there are specific deficits, which may in fact seem insignificant to you. I specifically asked how many points separate VIQ and PIQ? When were the tests taken? I didn't ask for FSIQ.
Highly verbal, this can be any combination of speech, written and or reading. Young children with AS are often seen as little professors because their speech is advanced as is their ability to memorize. So what you don't consider an oddity of speech is in fact a red flag. Has a speech pathologist evaluated your child? Over time with trial and error and tolerance of others they often settle into the normal range although somewhere near the fringes of normalcy.
Inattention and impulsiveness more so than hyperactivity as the child matures are hallmarks for AS, for slightly different reasons than ADHD, far too complex to expound upon here. These combined with high intelligence confuse everyone because while the child is clearly capable intellectually of appropriate behavior yet choose to act otherwise and fall back on defenses.
Insofar as the article, 15 years ago Asperger's Syndrome was not a part of the DSM-III-R, therefore is a child with Asperger's was diagnosed it was with ADD/ADHD, PDD, OCD, ODD, CD, ANXIETY, MOOD/BIPOLAR, PSYCHOSIS, PERSONALITY DISORDERS! ADD/ADHD being the Dx de jour for high functioning and or "gifted". Here is an article addrssing that from the ADHD perspecitve please remember the age of the child will be a factor. http://www.addresources.org/article_gifted_lovecky.php
Here is a link to CHADD there was an excellent article in their March-May ? 2003 issue if you subscribe. http://www.help4adhd.org/treatment/co-existing
http://www.chadd.org/fs/fs5.htm
http://www.addresources.org/enews_feb_2005.php
New Books related to ADHD
Different Minds: Gifted Children With AD/HD, Asperger Syndrome, and other Learning Deficits is written by Deirdre V. Lovecky and sells for $25. Recognizing the different levels and kinds of giftedness, this book provides an insight into the challenges and benefits specific to gifted children with attention difficulties. Explaining why certain children are gifted and how giftedness is manifested, each chapter on a specific topic addresses the relevance for children with AD/HD, autism and Asperger Syndrome. Lovecky guides parents and professionals through methods of diagnosis and advises on how best to nurture individual needs, positive behavior and relationships at home and at school.
Misdiagnosis And Dual Diagnoses Of Gifted Children And Adults: ADHD, Bipolar, OCD, Asperger's, Depression, And Other Disorders by James T., Ph.D. Webb, Edward R. Amend, Nadia E. Webb, Edward R. Amend Psy.D, Nadia E. Webb Psy. D, Jean Goerss M.D., Paul Beljan Psy.D, and F. Richard Olenchak PhD.
Our brightest, most creative children and adults are often being misdiagnosed with behavioral and emotional disorders such as ADHD, Oppositional-Defiant Disorder, Bipolar, OCD, or Asperger’s. Many receive unneeded medication and inappropriate counseling as a result. Physicians, psychologists, and counselors often are unaware of characteristics of gifted children and adults that mimic pathological diagnoses. Six nationally prominent health care professionals describe ways parents and professionals can distinguish between gifted behaviors and pathological behaviors.
Genius! Nurturing the Spirit of the Wild, Odd, and Oppositional Child* *Tourette Syndrome, Bipolar Disorder, AD/HD, and Asperger Syndrome by George Lynn, M.A., M.P.A., L.M.H.C. Genius! moves past survival strategies to give parents of children diagnosed with Tourette Syndrome, bipolar disorder, AD/HD, and Asperger Syndrome a practical plan for bringing out the best qualities in their kids while taking care of themselves in the process. It is based on the premise that the genius of neurologically different children is necessary for the survival of humankind. Through historical analysis, modern brain research, and the wisdom of myth, George T. Lynn shows us how the disturbing and wildly creative character of these children is required if we are to avoid stagnation as a species.
Even if your child doesn't have Asperger's, exploring this possibility may give you and his providers some insight as to how he might be helped
I'm glad you have finally decided to ask his current provider to consider this possibility.
