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MsTKirk

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rmet4nzkx:

I think I hear the violins now...did I touch on something that perhaps hit a nerve in you, reminding you of your childhood. Your advice and time wasted on me, has done nothing for me. Only person who help is MYSELF...thank god! To think I would have considered and relied on your views and oppions woulda cost me, my kid!

You haven't lost any custody metters? I find that hard to believe! Then why are ya in here unless you've experienced it? Hmmmm...food for thought

My knowledge supersedes most.(that remark to include you, rmet4nzkx)

Since I live in the SF Bay Area, I am taking your threat personally and I will take appropriate action.
Hmmm...a threat followed by a threat?? Where's the justice here??

Let me go put on some lipgloss as I wait for your appropriate action to occur.

Shoulda known better...the last place to get advice/info. is from others who've lost everything...dummy me!
 


rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
MsTKirk said:
rmet4nzkx:

I think I hear the violins now...did I touch on something that perhaps hit a nerve in you, reminding you of your childhood. Your advice and time wasted on me, has done nothing for me. Only person who help is MYSELF...thank god! To think I would have considered and relied on your views and oppions woulda cost me, my kid!

You haven't lost any custody metters? I find that hard to believe! Then why are ya in here unless you've experienced it? Hmmmm...food for thought

My knowledge supersedes most.(that remark to include you, rmet4nzkx)

Since I live in the SF Bay Area, I am taking your threat personally and I will take appropriate action.
Hmmm...a threat followed by a threat?? Where's the justice here??

Let me go put on some lipgloss as I wait for your appropriate action to occur.

Shoulda known better...the last place to get advice/info. is from others who've lost everything...dummy me!
As I said some members here are professionals, like me. I'm not here asking questions because I didn't bother to go to court, I am here sharing my professional expertise on forensic matters, somehthing you wouldn't understand because you don't understand what it means to share. If you'll notice this site has many sections on all aspects of law, not just child custody. As I said, I havn't lost custody of my children and I am not bitter. You are projecting your defects on to everyone who interacts with you. You need to grow up very soon.
 

L.Lundy

Member
MsTKirk said:
To think I would have considered and relied on your views and oppions woulda cost me, my kid!
The only person costing you your child is YOU.

You have come in here blasting anyone who gave you advice or recommendations that you didn't like, and then you turn around and blame THEM for losing patience with your behavior. You do not exhibit the self control necessary to put your child's needs ahead of your own in any way, shape, or form.

Throwing stones at people in here for hypothetically losing their children is the height of hypocrisy and completely unacceptable. Even if someone here HAD lost their children, you are in NO position to judge them for it, and it's not relevant to the situation you came in here asking for advice on.

You need serious help.
 

BL

Senior Member
I'm not even going to read replies or this thread anymore .

I think the Ms. is getting her kicks on this forum , not from route 66 .

To correct and clarify , I was born and raised in the U.S . I am not lebonese, I'm a male with enough years and experience to have some wisdom behind my belt .

I have GOOD insight on people , and have been told as much by professional , mind you I do not always have high feelings for some professionals though .

My screen name was made up for the fun of it , as Lebinese is purposely misspelled that way not to link Lebanon ( as it has been associated with terrorism ) . The screen name a poster was wondering about , I told her to ask her hippie mom , which she did .

As for losing custody , I have never lost Custody . I spend the fist 8 , 6 , and 4 years in my children's lives ( Joint Custody ) , until my X absconded and secreted them from me to another State .

It took letter to congress women Louis Slaughter , and research over the years to learn the Laws I could prevail in Court upon .

I didn't give up . She was found in reprehensible conduct and civil contempt for her actions.

My children our grown and I have contact with them , with good relationships , and yes they say I love you DAD .

Children are NOT stupid .

I Hope Mary see your threats of running someone over , and bans you from this site .

You got a dose of excellent advice and some tough love ( like you would in counseling ). You don't like the answer , it's your prerogative , but Threatening members is against this sites terms of use .

Oh and when you go in front of the Judge tell him all your stories you told here , and tell him you a right , don't forget now ... I'd like to be a fly on the wall ...

Your not pulling my leg anymore to feed your ego , and get your kicks .
 
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Obnoxious1

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MsTKirk said:
rmet4nzkx:

I think I hear the violins now...did I touch on something that perhaps hit a nerve in you, reminding you of your childhood. Your advice and time wasted on me, has done nothing for me. Only person who help is MYSELF...thank god! To think I would have considered and relied on your views and oppions woulda cost me, my kid!

You haven't lost any custody metters? I find that hard to believe! Then why are ya in here unless you've experienced it? Hmmmm...food for thought

My knowledge supersedes most.(that remark to include you, rmet4nzkx)

Since I live in the SF Bay Area, I am taking your threat personally and I will take appropriate action.
Hmmm...a threat followed by a threat?? Where's the justice here??

Let me go put on some lipgloss as I wait for your appropriate action to occur.

Shoulda known better...the last place to get advice/info. is from others who've lost everything...dummy me!
You laid in bed bawling on the day of your custody hearing and you are claiming any type of intelligence? Good GOD you're a special kind of stupid.
 

Veronica1228

Senior Member
Smoking? Threatening people with vehicular manslaughter? Ignoring the advice of mediators and judges?

Lady, you deserve to lose your kid.
 

MsTKirk

Member
WOW!! you all really do have a conscious...glad to see I've awaken it. The lastest postings regarding my matter..have actually been constructive. All with the offering as to who you really are, as well.

My intentions weren't to come in here blasting anyone.

I think my argumentative mannerism is being miscontrued here..accept my apologies please. Perhaps everyone (including everyone I daily with on a daily basis) is perceiving me in a way, I not intended myself to be.
I don't what to argue or be superior over anyone nor demanding...but rather I seem to have a strong quality of wanting to "DEBATE" issues, not so much trying to prove a point, but perhaps allowing someone to see '1 thing' in two different ways. Not all think alike nor, or any two snowflakes the same.

<sigh> maybe I should have grown up to be a "FILIBUSTER", ya think?

Trust me, I have every intention of clearing my honor with the courts and remember my husband still needs to sit me down and discuss what happened at court. Tell what though..I'm GLAD I didn't answer the phone call from my son yesterday, especially the state of mind that I was in, I wouldn't have held it together once I heard his voice. Today, I'm calmer and feeling more confident because you people are gangin up on me, making me defend myself..gets the blood pumping again. <said in a jokingly tone>

Hey, how about we try a new angle...remember all that PROOF/EVIDENCE I said I could offer the courts to disprove the father's remarks about pretty much anything he's every said. Well, I've got tons of it whether it be pictures or documents or items of sorts. Could we all work on...
"How in the heck do I present this stuff to this judge?"
I'm talkin a poop load of documents to crush every statement he's ever made.

Any ideas? <oh god, i'm ducking> I'm askin' politely now, be nice.
 
12-Step Program

MsTKirk said:
Let me go put on some lipgloss as I wait for your appropriate action to occur.

Now, that's some HOT internet action!

Oops! I'm sure I misinterpreted that statement. But just in case, I'll be lookin' for the Shaggin' Wagon (aka. hotfordaerostar.com) as I pull onto the Information Superhighway.

Good luck. Goodbye.
 

rmet4nzkx

Senior Member
Most likely, it is too late and most of your evidence is not relevant, and you have no grounds for appeal. You need to focus on doing what the court ordered you to do and become a competent parent. Focus on your son, not on trying to slander his father.

QUIT MAKING THREATS!
 

tigger22472

Senior Member
I have just sat and read all four pages of this thread. I saw it yesterday and saw that good advice was being given and let it go... Heaven Forbid what a day makes!!

You're not getting it. YOU have to comply with the court orders first before you're going to get anywhere. This evidence isn't going to help you when you've proven that you can't follow a court order yourself. You were ordered to do therapy for whatever reason, and you have failed to comply.

Unless I have misunderstood this is not the first judge that has felt the need to rule against you. I understood that you dont' have custody of your other chldren either, is that correct?

All of that aside, this 'evidence' you have is sh*t until you comply with the court order and quit DEMANDING things from the father. Those 3-7 page letters I'm sure were full of four letter words and showed your personality disorder very clearly just as you have here!! You aren't doing ANYONE any favors, least of all your son, by not seeking the help you obviously need AND WAS ORDERED.
 

MsTKirk

Member
Ugh, rmet4nzkx.....

ok, maybe ya missed something in my endless postings. But, my ass was saved yesterday in court. I do believe the hearing has been set to a "short cause calendar" or an "evidentary hearing", the date I don't know yet. That's what I was going to ask for, should I have showed up yesterday. So, that I could present my evidence.

and write this down, rmet4nzkx;
1. she has finished 4 of the 12 sessions so far (therapy)
2. she hasn't smoked since august 2002
3. father has violated current custody/visitation orders and is a repeated filer
for wanting all custody terminated, every time I pitch a fit about his
his endless violations of the court orders, ex:
a) changed the child's school of attendance (told child don't tell mom)
b) doesn't 1st let me know about what he's enrolling our son into,til
afterwards(stipulation in current orders state:must 1st tell other
parent)
c) moves to a different town, literally waits to have the apartment set
up, then tells child to call me and give me new address (i never
even knew he had intentions of moving, farther away)
d) put my son into therapy and refused to tell me what, if any issues
my son was having to warrant the need of therapy (50% legal custody)
e) I wrote 5 letters reminding him of the court orders and to follow them
f) has been recording all my phone conversations with my son that i've
been having.
g) while awaiting the arrival of my son, on my visitation days, he at times
has taken the child to his parents house 80 miles away and then
claims, I was inagreement with him doing so, i must have forgotten he
says.
h) refused to let me take my son to the dentist when he broke his tooth
because it was on his time..for me to wait til my next visitation
i) has committed perjury in a major way within latest filing, yep i can
disprove about 18 statements that he made within in.
 

MsTKirk

Member
tigger22472:

Originally a court mediator in 2002 had reccomended, weekly sessions for 6 months to address the online computer use and parenting skills(nutrition,child
appropriate movies etc..basically teach me how to be a mom..when i already have two older children...the typical battle over who's the better parent person, he lied about most but regardless it warranted me to be in need of therapy) he falsified many things in mediation and stupidly i didn't play the game back with him. BUT...the judge found that to be ridiculous because she didn't see what the need was for and she found me to be quite intelligible, but to make the father happy and not to over-ride the mediator she reduced it to 10

But, those issues of comupter use are days long gone..i keep clear of chatrooms and this is my 1st forum type chat, never did this before.
I quit smoking like ordered. AND...i've already started the therapy even before the courts have entered it into a judgement..did so after receiving the mediators report. This mediator has only added on to it, by makin it 12 sessions needed total.

No i never did attempt them after the 2002 judgement because once the father he had what he wanted i was allowed to see my son whenever i wanted.
 

MsTKirk

Member
ps...i do have two other children..one daughter, 18, graduated with honors now in college..another son 13..7th grade honor roll student, he's way too perfect..as all my kids are..but now the youngest who's 11 is not as much the same as he used to be now that he's been living with the father..sports sports sports, he could careless about school
 

tigger22472

Senior Member
MsTKirk said:
Ugh, rmet4nzkx.....

ok, maybe ya missed something in my endless postings. But, my ass was saved yesterday in court. I do believe the hearing has been set to a "short cause calendar" or an "evidentary hearing", the date I don't know yet. That's what I was going to ask for, should I have showed up yesterday. So, that I could present my evidence.

and write this down, rmet4nzkx;
1. she has finished 4 of the 12 sessions so far (therapy)
That's a start.. however when were you ordered to do them and how often have you gone. I mean were these 4 sessions in a short period or were they very spread out and when was the last? It's only 1/3 of what was ordered but depending on the situation, as I said, a start.

2. she hasn't smoked since august 2002
Another good sign.


3. father has violated current custody/visitation orders and is a repeated filer
for wanting all custody terminated, every time I pitch a fit about his
his endless violations of the court orders, ex:
a) changed the child's school of attendance (told child don't tell mom)
Do you have proof that he told the child not to tell you OTHER then the child's mouth? How did you find out about the change and how long from the time of the change did you find out? This in itself without proof might not be considered a violation.


b) doesn't 1st let me know about what he's enrolling our son into,til
afterwards(stipulation in current orders state:must 1st tell other
parent)
And maybe he has proof he tried.. if not.. still in the end although it could be a violation in custody issues it could be a minute situation... making mountains out of molehillls so to say. More then likely you can be told that you just don't have to make the child go on your time.

c) moves to a different town, literally waits to have the apartment set
up, then tells child to call me and give me new address (i never
even knew he had intentions of moving, farther away)
This is not a violation unless he moves either A. outside the jurisdiction (meaning usually county or state). As long as you have the information then that's all he's required to do and by your post he does get the address and phone number too you. In fact even if he moved out of the county it might not be a violation. Absent any move away clause in an order the state of Indiana allows a parent to move 100 miles away without court and/or parent approval.

d) put my son into therapy and refused to tell me what, if any issues
my son was having to warrant the need of therapy (50% legal custody)
Do you know who the therapist is? You have a right to contact the therapist. The only real violation here could be putting him in the first place, however, he can get out of that one by saying the child really needed it... and maybe not giving the therapist access to you.

e) I wrote 5 letters reminding him of the court orders and to follow them
No, you wrote him 5 letters between 3 to 7 pages long BIT**ING at him about violations and DEMANDING he do things.

f) has been recording all my phone conversations with my son that i've
been having.
Do you have proof outside your son possibly saying so? Maybe your ex even told you but you yourself said he's a liar... you have to have proof he's taping your son and you .

g) while awaiting the arrival of my son, on my visitation days, he at times
has taken the child to his parents house 80 miles away and then
claims, I was inagreement with him doing so, i must have forgotten he
says.
And can you prove differently?

h) refused to let me take my son to the dentist when he broke his tooth
because it was on his time..for me to wait til my next visitation
And did he take the child to the dentist? You might not be able to use that he refused to allow you to do it on his time, but if he never did it you could possibly use that. However, it would also have to be proven he never called a dentist or never attempted to get the child in if in fact he didn't take the child.

i) has committed perjury in a major way within latest filing, yep i can
disprove about 18 statements that he made within in.
How do you disprove his statements? You have already shown yourself not to be credible by your actions. You have already shown the mediators and judges you do not know how to control your actions and emotions. You are walking in that court room with a HUGE strike against you already and you can't go in with blatent accusations without proof...SOLID PROOF

You also seem to think that all is good now because your husband went in and explained things for you. That's not completely true... either he went in and lied or he went in and told the truth, either way yes, it makes you look better then NO ONE showing up... but still makes you look bad. It's more proof that you can't control your emotions AND it will look like you did it to get a continuance to 'dig' more stuff up that already is going to make you look vindictive.
 
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