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Ohiogal

Queen Bee
If you understand narcissism, that is him along with emotional abuse. Those type of people cannot change, he needs help so that the kids are not subjected to his manipulation. I got myself out, but not them and that is something I regret.
You have no right to diagnose him. Who diagnosed him as narcissistic? What evidence do you have of that diagnosis? You seem to think you would be able to prevent him from seeing HIS children because you are no longer with him. Not going to happen. And if you try it, you can lose custody to him because of your alienation.
 


sarabara

Member
I get it. I went through YEARS of a 60/40 split. Of feeling like I had to deprogram my kids every time they came back to my house. Of dealing with my ex AND his new wife telling the kids all kinds of horrible things about me. I kept on keeping on, trying to be the best parent I could be, trying to show the kids through my actions that I wasn't what their father and stepmom were painting me as. Sometimes I screwed up and let my feelings towards those two show - but mostly, I vented to friends and kept it under wraps.

13 years later, the kids are 20 and 17, and unfortunately they have no relationship with their father. As crappy a person as he was a lot of the time? I still wouldn't wish fatherlessness on kids, and I still believe that the time they did spend with him when they were young was important and not something I'd ever regret.

Well thanks for at least being someone who can understand. No, im not emotionally unstable. I am geniunely concerned for my kids and sad that i cant do anything and just pray they see how much I love them regardless of his manipulation. And that they can see it now, not 15 years down the road.

I mainly vent to friends and family away from them.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
I AM not asking to take my children from him! Nor would I want to. But, I do think they're best with me having primary custody is all.
BULL. You have stated that. You couldn't get them "out" or "away" from him. You quite frankly need a lot of mental health help.
 

sarabara

Member
Omg i am not trying to alienate HIM AT ALL!!! I never said he should NEVER see them. I think supervised would be best though because they cannot be manipulated if he is being watched.

I am not some monster! I understand they deserve a dad, all kids do.
 

sarabara

Member
BULL. You have stated that. You couldn't get them "out" or "away" from him. You quite frankly need a lot of mental health help.

Lol! ok keep telling yourself that. i said I DESERVE full custody, but i know that isnt likely. children being manipulated is not good! he can manipulate me all day, or try to but not the children. that disgusts me.

But you dont know him like I do, nor do I need to convince you. So keep on insulting me, if that makes you feel better.
 

sarabara

Member
Get therapy. You believe a 3 and 6 year old when they say these things? Good grief. You need help. And what have you done about him texting you that stuff? ANYTHING? Anything at all?
Yes.. a criminal complaint due to the violation. So, yes I have thank you very much.
 

sarabara

Member
Sara, stop it for a sec. Please look at what you're writing here. I get that you're upset, and that you're angry ... trust me, I get that. But you're not being productive and you're not helping yourself or your children.

Don't waive around armchair diagnoses. That does nothing but reinforce your anger and that's going to hurt you and your children even more in the long run. Understand that Dad has rights and it takes an awful lot for a court to remove even some of those rights. I'm talking abject neglect and abuse. Nothing you've said even comes close so far.

Instead of focusing on how to remove or reduce Dad - which you cannot do - focus instead on what you can do to make sure your children are taught decent coping skills.

Many (most?) of us here have had to go with "fake it until you make it" which, however trite it may sound, does actually work quite well most of the time. You can't control Dad. All you can control is how you deal with him, and step one is not letting him rent so much space in your head. He shouldn't be spending that much time there without paying rent ... right?
No, I get that, I am definitely focusing on my kids and what I can do to help my oldest through this tough time. I dont put that energy in around them, I normally vent aside from them. But, yes I understand I cannot control him. Sad as it is, I know. Was simply wondering how tough of a fight it is to get primary custody.
 

Zigner

Senior Member, Non-Attorney
I dont like him one bit but I dont show that to my children. I tell them all the time that we all love each other...
You lie to the kids?

Omg i am not trying to alienate HIM AT ALL!!! I never said he should NEVER see them. I think supervised would be best though because they cannot be manipulated if he is being watched.
You don't get supervised visitation because of his parenting style.
 

CTU

Meddlesome Priestess
Sara. STOP.

Let me spell this out.

YOU CAN LOSE CUSTODY COMPLETELY if the court thinks you're trying to alienate your children from their father. And if he's half as manipulative as you say he is, you'd be a fool to give him any ammunition.

Do you understand?

IT CAN HAPPEN.
 

sarabara

Member
Sara. STOP.

Let me spell this out.

YOU CAN LOSE CUSTODY COMPLETELY if the court thinks you're trying to alienate your children from their father. And if he's half as manipulative as you say he is, you'd be a fool to give him any ammunition.

Do you understand?

IT CAN HAPPEN.
i am not trying to. i clearly am working with him right now and for t he past 2 months! I NEVER deny him time with them

So**************..just go to meditation and give him 50/50 custody? :/ Thats my only option.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
Lol! ok keep telling yourself that. i said I DESERVE full custody, but i know that isnt likely. children being manipulated is not good! he can manipulate me all day, or try to but not the children. that disgusts me.

But you dont know him like I do, nor do I need to convince you. So keep on insulting me, if that makes you feel better.
I haven't insulted you at all. I have told you to grow up and get therapy. Those are two very important things you need to do. You are acting like a spoiled child who is afraid of losing their favorite toys.
 

sarabara

Member
I haven't insulted you at all. I have told you to grow up and get therapy. Those are two very important things you need to do. You are acting like a spoiled child who is afraid of losing their favorite toys.
im already in therapy, and i have actually grown up a lot in the past couple of months. my children are not toys nor do i view them like that. they are precious, fragile, human beings. who i have a natural feeling of wanting to protect.
 

Ohiogal

Queen Bee
No i went straight TO court after he said that.
Then you filed before going to the police. Therefore, it wasn't that serious because if you have taken him seriously, you would have gone immediately to the police with all the evidence that he said that and that you were afraid of him.
 
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